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WCDT: 2357-2361 (7-11 January 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
sitnspin:
I don't see elves as jerks. I see them as old. Very old. Having seen enough and lived long enough to give them perspective on a scale none of the other races are capable of. Add in that they have been burned often by the younger races and witnessed their folly repeatedly through the ages with all the damage it has wrought and it is not surprising they are dismissive and reclusive when it comes to younger races. Having been alive since before the creation of the Sun and before the other races even existed would tend to give one a sense of superiority, and rightfully so. The problem when dealing with elves is a matter of perspective and scale.
StevenC:
That doesn't make the Doctor be all superior dismissive.
Often.
HiFranc:
Marigold's reaction to Dale reminds me of an old[1] documentary. The documentary, Five Steps to Tyranny, looked at history and experiments by psychologists to show how easy it was to create a repressive dictatorship. One experiment involves football (aka soccer). Here's a link to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg-VyagA8FU part of that documentary. Watch from about 7mins 50secs (and you will need to move on to the next part to see it to its conclusion).
[1] From 2001
Bluesummers:
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 08 Jan 2013, 08:45 ---I see them as old. Very old. Having seen enough and lived long enough to give them perspective on a scale none of the other races are capable of.
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*Nerd mode initiated*
According to the Silmarillion (and as such, this really only applies to Tolkien's multiverse, but is worth hearing anyway), the Dwarves were the first peoples of Middle-Earth, created by Aulë, child of Ilúvatar. They were created as a result of Aulë's enthusiasm to build, and at Ilúvatar's command, they were put into a slumber until after the Elves were created and awakened. Aulë gave them his own strength, hardiness, and tough nature, because he knew they'd have to endure much harshness in the world.
sitnspin:
--- Quote from: Bluesummers on 08 Jan 2013, 09:14 ---
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 08 Jan 2013, 08:45 ---I see them as old. Very old. Having seen enough and lived long enough to give them perspective on a scale none of the other races are capable of.
--- End quote ---
*Nerd mode initiated*
According to the Silmarillion (and as such, this really only applies to Tolkien's multiverse, but is worth hearing anyway), the Dwarves were the first peoples of Middle-Earth, created by Aulë, child of Ilúvatar. They were created as a result of Aulë's enthusiasm to build, and at Ilúvatar's command, they were put into a slumber until after the Elves were created and awakened. Aulë gave them his own strength, hardiness, and tough nature, because he knew they'd have to endure much harshness in the world.
--- End quote ---
Fair enough. I had forgotten about the Dwarves coming first then being put to sleep. I haven't read The Silmarrillion since I was 12 or so. I obviously need to reread it. My point still stands, though, since no Dwarves are still alive from that period. Elves, on the other hand, are still alive from the First Age. Age and perspective are still overwhelming factors when attempting to understand elvish personality and interaction with other races and the world as a whole.
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