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WCDT: 2362-2366 (14-18 January 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
cesariojpn:
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--- Quote from: cesariojpn on 16 Jan 2013, 22:13 ---Jeph couldn't put in an obvious Red Sonja joke?
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Dammit! I wanted to make that reference!
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You could've used others.......I guess.
Valdís:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 17 Jan 2013, 09:31 ---Smaller groups are an exception. My wife's choir director is very direct in his instructions and doesn't reason with people: his authority comes from voluntary cooperation. Other authority comes from expertise and tradition: I'm going to schedule an unpleasant and embarrassing medical procedure soon because my doctor told me to.
It's when we try to build something larger than a hunter-gatherer band that we need to resort to force to keep things together.
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I don't see how that's an exception. Voluntary cooperation does not equal having authority over someone else. The instant they disagree without setting aside their preferences that cooperation would break down and could not be kept together without power, so the "leader" isn't actually in charge. Now that power could still be "Persona non grata" or such ostracism, but it is still a manner of inflicting negative effects on the uncooperative party via dominant control of resources as a means of maintaining order.
Violence, as the root of all real* authority, is just a fact of life. It's true for democracies and so forth as well. The police are collectively hired violence we use to maintain our self-designated rights to property and so forth, the criminals are the ones opting out of the "voluntary cooperation" and being brought back into line by the real power of violent subjugation.
Quite off topic, though. :laugh:
*Edit: I previously had "- or percieved - " between these, but that can have real effects too. What I mean is when actually using the first five or so definitions of the word, not straying into abstract adjectives.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: Border Reiver on 17 Jan 2013, 04:08 ---
--- Quote from: cesariojpn on 16 Jan 2013, 22:13 ---Jeph couldn't put in an obvious Red Sonja joke?
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Dammit! I wanted to make that reference!
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Ah yes, the original chainmail bikini wearer. I'd forgotten, except in the furtive depths of my subconscious...
No, you really don't want to go there...
ThinksTooMuch:
As for the current poll: in my opinion Cosette would probably be the worst. There would be a sudden rash of accidental amputations in Northampton...
Akima:
--- Quote from: Valdís on 17 Jan 2013, 08:42 ---"Will you never cease prating of laws to us that have swords by our sides?" —Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus ..his most illustrious defender of democratic values
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A popular idea... "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." - Mao Zedong
On the other hand... "A leader is best when people barely know he exists, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say: we did it ourselves." - Lao Tzu
Perhaps this just highlights the difference between leadership and authority.
Anyway... Xena? Really? I can think of much cooler swordswomen, and without a chain-mail bikini in sight.
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