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Firefly Again
ackblom12:
Buffy I can't speak for because I just never saw more than a few episodes. I saw enough to know it wasn't my cup of tea, but I haven't seen enough to judge it's portrayals of characters and the like. I've read some analytical pieces over the show that don't paint a terribly pretty picture of certain aspects of it, Willow, Xander and Spike being three of the more commonly mentioned things, but I don't know how much of it can be taken at face value. It still sounds like it did a lot of things right, but Whedon definitely has several blind spots.
From what I saw of Dollhouse, which was the first season, I can't help but feel like Whedon fell into the rather common trap of becoming what it was criticizing. It's a fine line to walk and I'm not convinced it walked it very well at all. There's a lot to be said about some rather nasty things in Firefly too if you take a critical eye to it, even ignoring the most obvious issue that's been brought up.
I mean, I'm not going to say anyone can't enjoy them clearly. This is coming from a guy who has watched and enjoyed a film called "The Gestapo's Last Orgy", a 70's Nazisploitation flick where a group of Nazis eat a Jewish baby and it's mother at a dinner table, among a lot of other horrible things. Over the years I have just become incredibly tired of having to explain to faux "Free Speech" and "art defenders" slinging vitrol at anyone who dares find anything they enjoy offensive, that they don't get a say in what someone else finds offensive. It's especially frustrating when criticism get's labeled as "censorship", which has gotten a hell of a lot more common in the last few years.
Edit: Basically I'm saying fandom can be fucking terrible.
Jace:
citation: Homestuck fandom, various anime fandom, comic book fandom, literally any and every fandom.
Zingoleb:
I'm getting into Homestuck. Trying to, anyways, 'cause holy fucking shit there's so much of it.
ackblom12:
I love Homestuck so much, and hate it's fan so much more.
Zingoleb:
I follow a couple homestuck blogs, but they don't seem to be that bad?
I mean, at least it's not the Sherlock fandom.
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