Topic: Mafia 6: Vampire Village (Read 60440 times)

henri bemis · « **Reply #150 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 11:42 »

Fair enough. I have to give it some thought, and might be back to change my vote, but... I mean, I'm probably dead no matter what, so I want to make my last vote 'count' for the future, even if it won't save me.

I just kind of can't blame de_la_Nae for jumping to conclusions about me - I highly, highly doubt she's lying about what she saw, which means she's on our side, so I don't want to throw her under the bus for this. I'd be pissed, and want vengeance, too if I woke up to someone shooting me. That, in itself, doesn't strike me as very suspicious. I just also know that I didn't do it.

I don't know what the hell to believe anymore.

Loki · « **Reply #151 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 11:53 »

I cannot vote for either of you three to be lynched in good conscience, because I trust henri bemis, and I think de_la_Nae would have to be ... awfully willing to take risks to pull something like this. And TheEvilDog seems fine enough as well $:-\$

Are we sure that de_la_Nae is still one of us? Dem Hunters are good at brainwashing. I, sadly, speak from experience. My poor darling.

I also cannot help but notice that Black Sword and dr. nervioso are awfully silent.

Black Sword · « **Reply #152 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 11:58 »

I'm pretty quiet when I'm trying to unravel a web of lies. I don't have anything strongly suggestive enough to recommend anyone for a bleedin'.

TheEvilDog · « **Reply #153 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 12:21 »

Quote from: Loki on 22 Mar 2013, 11:53

Are we sure that de_la_Nae is still one of us?

Exactly. Whatever got fired at de_la_Nae must be something to do something drastic to vampires, and yet de_la_Nae is still alive, so either the assailant missed or its done something that we can't see. De_la_Nae called me a human sympathiser, but how do we know that she hasn't reverted back to being human?

henri bemis · « **Reply #154 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 13:03 »

well, cesium did say the mysterious serum 'apparently had no effect' (emphasis mine), but it's some twisted ass conspiracy if de_la_Nae was involved in framing me, and targeted herself, knowing that it would bring both of us under scrutiny.

The simpler explanation is that, until now, we were both reasonably easy targets to deflect suspicion from the real killers. I mean, how much of this conversation has been about anyone else? very convenient. I was handed up on a silver platter. I'm afraid we're going to end up with another innocent dead (me, probably), and no new real information to go on. That's what bothers me the most - I'm not afraid of death (been there, done that), but I'm worried the distraction will hurt us.

henri bemis · « **Reply #155 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 13:05 »

(sorry to double post, but I can't edit) And the simplest explanation, of course, would be that I did shoot de_la_Nae, and I don't blame anyone for believing that. If she'd seen anyone else, I'd be incredibly wary of them, too. But I refuse to let someone play me without a fight.

Zingoleb · « **Reply #156 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 13:08 »

Quote from: TheEvilDog on 22 Mar 2013, 12:21

Quote from: Loki on 22 Mar 2013, 11:53
Are we sure that de_la_Nae is still one of us?

Exactly. Whatever got fired at de_la_Nae must be something to do something drastic to vampires, and yet de_la_Nae is still alive, so either the assailant missed or its done something that we can't see. De_la_Nae called me a human sympathiser, but how do we know that she hasn't reverted back to being human?

Your insistence on making de_la_nae the guilty party in this is disturbing.

I retract my vote for henri bemis and vote to lynch TheEvilDog.

cesium133 · « **Reply #157 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 13:56 »

Current votes: (correct me if I'm wrong)
henri bemis: 2
TheEvilDog: 2
de_la_Nae: 1

If my calculations are correct, sunrise will occur sometime tomorrow morning (CDT) (tomorrow afternoon GMT), so you have about 16 hours or so to decide your votes.

Loki · « **Reply #158 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 13:59 »

The thing is, we don't really have anything else to go on except today's incident.

Beware: below is my possibly utterly biased compilation of actions of players so far. Long. I might have missed something. I encourage you to go back and check.

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Zingoleb · « **Reply #159 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 14:04 »

OOC, That was actually really fascinating

henri bemis · « **Reply #160 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 14:08 »

Nice! though this, toward the end: "Unicorn: says she might retract kill TheEvilDog" was actually me. I was the one who expressed doubt, though I'm becoming more confident in my vote the more I think about it.

Loki · « **Reply #161 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 14:11 »

Eh. Yes. Sorry, I am tired and stressed.

de_la_Nae · « **Reply #162 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 15:12 »

I know as much as anyone can know (which is not 100% but still) that henri bemis is an enemy.

That said I think TheEvilDog is too, so if for *some reason* me getting *shot at* isn't good enough (fuck you guys too), I might be willing to change my vote for the sake of getting one of them. This tie thing is no good.

de_la_Nae · « **Reply #163 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 15:13 »

Or wait, it might not be a big deal, ties in lynchings go to random number roll between the potential victims doesn't it? We might be fine either way in that case.

Zingoleb · « **Reply #164 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 16:15 »

ooc, i think that both people get taken out? i know when the vote was split between me and trva13 last game we were both detained

TheEvilDog · « **Reply #165 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 16:26 »

OOC:

Quote from: cesium133 on 16 Mar 2013, 19:16

Rules
7. The player with the majority (one more than half the living players) get lynched and the day ends. Should the the day end before a majority is reached, the player with the most votes will get lynched. A minimum of two votes is necessary for a person to get lynched. In the case that there is a tie in the most votes, the lynch will be decided by a random number generator.

Black Sword · « **Reply #166 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 16:47 »

Sniped by TED.

I honestly don't have any good suspects. Even with Loki's detailed summary of the game, there's not enough to pin someone. de_la_Nae and henri look shadiest, but not enough for me to move against them. I also think people are punishing TED for his name again. >_>

Zingoleb · « **Reply #167 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 18:48 »

My suspicion is now spread to Black Sword as well, for defending the person I'm most suspicious of.

I am not fucking around here.

Lines · « **Reply #168 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 19:56 »

Since I doubt he'd object because of Unicorn's statement, Black Sword is actually a vampire as well. (There, Loki, satisfied?) I don't want another vampire dead.

This whole thing is so confusing to me. de_la's accusations were both shocking and suspicious and henri's retort seems simultaneously truthful and dishonest. TED's defense of henri seems reasonable, but also odd in a way, because so many people were ready to just lynch her. But BS is defending him and I know for a fact BS is a vampire, so....

Ugh. We'll leave it up to fate. I vote to lynch/eat de_la_Nae. I hope this doesn't bite me in the ass.

de_la_Nae · « **Reply #169 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 20:16 »

If I die, you lose a special role. Retract your vote.

Black Sword · « **Reply #170 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 20:27 »

Alright, let me offer a plan. de_la_Nae claims to be a special role. We should have a cop analog, so that cop should make sure de_la_Nae is on our side. Given the fact we went off half-cocked and J went the way of the dodo, everyone votes to abstain. I can hear J's ghost crying, but right now, assuming our cop isn't de_la_Nae, that means a safe harbor we can use to gather the roles in one place and cut through the ranks for the villains.

TheEvilDog · « **Reply #171 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 20:29 »

Quote from: de_la_Nae on 22 Mar 2013, 20:16

If I die, you lose a special role. Retract your vote.

If I die, you lose a super duper special role. So others should retract their vote!

See, I can do that too.

de_la_Nae · « **Reply #172 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 20:32 »

Yeah, you can.

de_la_Nae · « **Reply #173 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 20:35 »

I have been really hoping that you would show me something different, but you know what?

henri bemis is a snake, but I retract my vote for her. I already *know* she is.

Let's see if you've got blood or ichor, TheEvilDog.

My loss to the village would be perilous to its safety, I'll take the chance that I'll be the next target of the Humans (for the second or third time), but I won't let myself walk to the noose in this sort of frame-up.

cesium133 · « **Reply #174 on:** 22 Mar 2013, 20:40 »

Current vote:
TheEvilDog: 3
de_la_Nae: 2
henri bemis: 1

Loki · « **Reply #175 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 01:12 »

Godammit people cannot you make this easier for me?!

Thanks Linds, this is valuable insight. May the great progenitors smile upon you.

Ok, to summarize:
J was a vampire
Linds claims to be an investigator
Linds claims I am a vampire
Linds claims Black Sword is a vampire
de_la_Nae claims to be a protector of sorts
TheEvilDog (polemically?) claims to have a special role

If absolutely noone of them lies (which I heavily doubt), we have at least the following:

villager x 3
protector x 1
unknown role x 1
humans x 2 (the message said "we are coming", not "I am coming." Kinda weak evidence, I know.)

So, assuming there were no intruders from the outside, that leaves three people unaccounted for.

I really don't believe that any of the three are humans. I find, however suspicious, that dr. nervioso voted to lynch Linds in the first night. So, since dr. nervioso is my only other suspect.

kill dr. nervioso.

Loki · « **Reply #176 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 01:16 »

Re-read my post. To clarify:

Quote

So, assuming there were no intruders from the outside, that leaves three people unaccounted for.

I really don't believe that any of the three are humans.

The "three I don't believe to be humans" are de_la_Nae, TheEvilDog and henri bemis. They are not identical to the "three people unaccounted for".

cesium133 · « **Reply #177 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 09:21 »

Current vote:
TheEvilDog: 3
de_la_Nae: 2
henri bemis: 1
dr. nervioso: 1

The villagers, confused by the claims of de_la_Nae, debated throughout the night who was at fault for the goings-on in the town. At the end of the night, de_la_Nae ended up being the deciding factor, ensuring the lynching of TheEvilDog. As the villagers gathered around TheEvilDog, he defiantly shouted at Loki, "I'm the one who killed Eliza!". One of them sank their teeth into TheEvilDog's neck -- and delicious blood came out. After the villagers had had their fill, they inspected TheEvilDog's house and found that not only was he human, he was the Captain of Unit 314, the human military squad sent to destroy the village!

It is now Day 2. Players with roles, please send me your role PMs.

de_la_Nae · « **Reply #178 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 09:43 »

Vindication!

Now let's see who survives the night. Remember even if I die, *HENRI BEMIS SHOT ME*

Loki · « **Reply #179 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 09:48 »

*stands there smitten* So... it was him all along.. who let her out...

I guess it is time to tell our story.

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Loki · « **Reply #180 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 10:23 »

Quote from: de_la_Nae on 23 Mar 2013, 09:43

Vindication!

Now let's see who survives the night. Remember even if I die, *HENRI BEMIS SHOT ME*

Yes, you are right, we must move on.

People who voted for someone else than TheEvilDog to be killed are italic. People who did kill TheEvilDog are glowing red (blood, you know...) and are likely reliable. People who are innocent according to Linds are glowing orange.

Quote from: cesium133 on 16 Mar 2013, 19:16

The players
~~1. TheEvilDog~~ (voted de_la_Nae)
2. Unicorn
3. henri bemis
4. de_la_Nae
5. Loki (voted dr. nervioso)
6. Linds (voted de_la_Nae)
7. Black Sword
8. Gareth (voted henri bemis)
~~9. J~~: Villager
10. dr. nervioso

So, what do we see?

a) henri bemis and de_la_Nae both voted to kill TheEvilDog, who ended up to be human. Because of that, they are 99% likely to be both vampires.
b) Me and Black Sword are very likely either both humans or both vampires. Reason:

* if Linds is an investigator/"cop", she would speak the truth. Therefore, we would be both vampires. (I already know I am a vampire, so I assume Black Sword also is, but you don't have to believe me.)
* if Linds is human, it doesn't make sense to be truthful on one account, but lie on the other. At least not as far as I can see. So we would both be humans she would be protecting. (As I said, I know I am a vampire.)
c) Gareth is the only one who ended up voting henri bemis. Not much evidence there, as it was an early vote, but a bit suspicious.
d) dr. nervioso and Gareth are the only ones right now whom we can not at least somewhat reasonably assume to be vampires.

Therefore, I propose that whoever is able protects whomever they believe to be our investigator, while the investigator gathers intel. If I may suggest, either on Gareth or dr. nervioso.

The prosecution rests.

Zingoleb · « **Reply #181 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 11:48 »

I haven't stopped being suspicious of henri, though, since a) de_la_nae is absolutely sure she saw henri shoot at her, and b) TheEvilDog, a human, was defending her.

Lines · « **Reply #182 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 12:24 »

Welp, I'm glad it wasn't left up to fate and henri, Uni, and de targeted TheEvilDog. Now we need to question about whether or not TED was trying to save henri because she is a fellow human.

Loki · « **Reply #183 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 12:35 »

This confuses me. henri would have been a far easier target for wrongful lynching than de_la_Nae. But she *also* voted to lynch TheEvilDog.

Lines · « **Reply #184 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 12:44 »

I'm confusing you? I was referencing what I said when I voted for de because I was so utterly confused as to who was being honest. Now the issue has been cleared up (for me at least) and I really have no reason not to believe de_la_Nae. (To whom I would like to apologize - I am sorry I voted for you at all. I should have just let things be. I hope you'll forgive me?)

Loki · « **Reply #185 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 12:53 »

No, no, you are not the one who confuses me.* I was speaking in general, regarding the situation with henri bemis.

*Although I am still confused why you wouldn't reveal the nature of Black Sword for so long. I mean, the humans (assumingly) already knew who was vampire an who wasn't. At some point I even thought the reason was you might be getting blackmailed via PM.

Sorry for giving you a hard time about your role.

Thrillho · « **Reply #186 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 13:10 »

Okay, legitimate question - what the fuck have I done to be suspicious here?

I abstained from voting when nothing happened, because lynching someone for graffiti is stupid.

I voted henri bemis because it seemed pretty open and shut that de_la_Nae saw it happen, and I was in my sleep cycle (ooc: I have a buddy down and I was incredidrunk) when the lynch finally happened so I never had a chance to withdraw my vote.

How is it suspicious to have an early vote for the person that was directly being accused by the narrator themselves?

I have done literally nothing to arouse suspicion!

henri bemis · « **Reply #187 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 13:35 »

Holy shit, I'm alive! Fuck you, TheEvilDog. I knew it.

Quote from: Unicorn on 23 Mar 2013, 11:48

I haven't stopped being suspicious of henri, though, since a) de_la_nae is absolutely sure she saw henri shoot at her, and b) TheEvilDog, a human, was defending her.

But not only did I vote for TheEvilDog, I was the first one to do it, and fairly certain of two things: 1. That I was going to be lynched; 2. That TheEvilDog was guilty. If I was going to die, I was hoping the confirmation of my innocence would help justify my suspicions and help the vote in the next round, despite the fact that he was the first to believe me. I don't need that kind of support.

Loki · « **Reply #188 on:** 23 Mar 2013, 14:02 »

Okay, my new suspicion is: Everyone except me and J is a human.

On a more serious note: Gareth, you will notice that I didn't vote for you, but for dr. nervioso. Because I realize that voting against henri bemis doesn't say much in itself. It's just that I am reasonably certain that the six people highlighted in my list are innocent - and you are not one of those people yet. So you will understand that I am a bit suspicious of you, not because you are suspicious per se, but because almost everybody else is less suspicious to me.

cesium133 · « **Reply #189 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 11:20 »

As the sun set on Vampire Village, two screams startled the villagers. One came from Unicorn's house, where the villager's body was discovered with a stake driven through it. The other came from dr. nervioso's house, where his body was discovered with fang marks in its neck. Whoever tried to drink dr. nervioso's blood failed, however, as he was an ordinary vampiric villager.

It is now Night 3, you may now submit your lynch votes.

Thrillho · « **Reply #190 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 11:30 »

What the fuck, so there's some kind of vigilante in the mix?

I think I need to start wearing a neck protector. *cuts up toilet roll tube*

Loki · « **Reply #191 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 11:43 »

What the fuck now?

I am not voting until Linds tells us something new.

Lines · « **Reply #192 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 12:16 »

I know de_la_Nae is innocent, so out of the people left, henri and Gareth are the suspicious ones. Vote for whoever you like. I think BOTH need to form am argument as to why they shouldn't be killed. However, due to circumstances from last round, for now I vote to lynch henri bemis.

Thrillho · « **Reply #193 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 12:21 »

...Other than having nothing to do with anything? Is that not a good enough argument?

henri bemis · « **Reply #194 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 12:32 »

Because I was the first one to vote for TheEvilDog, getting us our first human kill? Because he's probably the bastard that set me up? Because I know I'm innocent? As I said, I expected to die last night, and I just wanted my vote to count for something.

Loki · « **Reply #195 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 12:39 »

Gareth, what is your vote?

Loki · « **Reply #196 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 12:39 »

And that of henri bemis for that matter too.

Thrillho · « **Reply #197 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 13:00 »

I haven't decided yet, but the way it's going Loki I'm leaning towards you. You're dealing out accusations like cards.

Lines · « **Reply #198 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 13:04 »

Gareth - No.

henri - I don't trust you because I haven't decided whether or not TED's trying to save you was because he was actually trying to save you because you're human or because he was messing with the rest of us and trying to get us to gang up on another vampire. We still have time, I may change my vote. I'm waiting to see what the others say.

But here's what I know:
Linds: vampire Sheriff
Loki: vampire
~~J: vampire, now dead.~~
Black Sword: vampire
~~TheEvilDog: human leader, now dead.~~
de_la_Nae: vampire
Unicorn: vampire, now dead
dr. nervioso: quiet vampire, now dead
henri bemis: role unknown
Gareth: role unknown

I know who the vigilante is, but out of respect, I'm not saying who it is. I think they made a mistake in attacking dr. nervioso (but they were being annoyingly quiet), but it's clear to me that there are 1-2 humans left and the ONLY options are Gareth and henri bemis. As this village's Sheriff, I am NOT letting another innocent vampire be murdered on my watch.

So really...whoever makes the most convincing argument will not be lynched/eaten. If you want to save yourselves, do your best.

Edit: Gareth posted before I finished, so Gareth, I would watch your step. I won't have you accusing innocent people and I stated the very first round that Loki is NOT human.

Loki · « **Reply #199 on:** 24 Mar 2013, 13:53 »

Linds, do you have the slightest doubts regarding the people you highlighted? Were there maybe "contradicting hints", "feelings of uncertainty" or something like that when you investigated the people?

I am asking because apparently at least one of them had the ability to identify as a vampire to you, so others might have the same ability.

And I *think* I also know who the vigilante is, which leaves me with another question... I will discuss that later.

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