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WCDT: 2421-2425 (8-12 April, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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Pilchard123:

--- Quote from: St.Clair on 11 Apr 2013, 08:54 ---They weren't called the Fair Folk because they actually were.
(See here also PTerry's various observations on the subject in Lords and Ladies.)

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Wasn't that elves?

Zebediah:

--- Quote from: TimO on 11 Apr 2013, 08:48 ---Isn't the fairy essentially invoking the Liar's Paradox?

Fairy: "Fairies don't grant wishes, they play tricks on people."
Emily: "Tricks? What kind of tricks?"
Fairy: "Well for instance, I'm not really a fairy".

... or is it closer to being an example of Epimenides paradox?  I'm not good at dealing with the logical exactitudes of whether it's still amusing if she's playing a trick on someone, but just because she can, not since she's really a fairy. :?
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It's only the Liar's Paradox because of a logical fallacy. I forget the name of the fallacy, but bascially it's assuming that P=>Q is equivalent to Q=>P, which it isn't. "All fairies are tricksters, therefore all tricksters are fairies." Only if you make that mistake can you then reason "I'm not a fairy, but I tricked you into thinking I was, therefore I'm a fairy."

Valdís:
Yay, logic! :laugh:

mtmerrick:

--- Quote from: Loki on 11 Apr 2013, 09:05 ---Fairy Girl is now a recurring character.

She is also the little sister of Pizza Girl. (This is my head canon and you should respect that.)

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I can definitely get onboard with this  :laugh:

Method of Madness:

--- Quote from: Zebediah on 11 Apr 2013, 10:50 ---
--- Quote from: TimO on 11 Apr 2013, 08:48 ---Isn't the fairy essentially invoking the Liar's Paradox?

Fairy: "Fairies don't grant wishes, they play tricks on people."
Emily: "Tricks? What kind of tricks?"
Fairy: "Well for instance, I'm not really a fairy".

... or is it closer to being an example of Epimenides paradox?  I'm not good at dealing with the logical exactitudes of whether it's still amusing if she's playing a trick on someone, but just because she can, not since she's really a fairy. :?
--- End quote ---

It's only the Liar's Paradox because of a logical fallacy. I forget the name of the fallacy, but bascially it's assuming that P=>Q is equivalent to Q=>P, which it isn't. "All fairies are tricksters, therefore all tricksters are fairies." Only if you make that mistake can you then reason "I'm not a fairy, but I tricked you into thinking I was, therefore I'm a fairy."

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Unless of course she is a fairy and tricked Emily into thinking she wasn't!

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