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Mafia 8 - The Shapers of Life

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J:
my little pwny?

J:

--- Quote from: Loki on 19 Apr 2013, 00:29 ---This... was eventful.

I think we can safely assume that our two attackers of the night are not the same person.

Person X attacked de_la_Nae with stabbing and found her to be a Rebel, which is interesting in itself, because that either requires some luck on their part, or they had a method to divine who she was. X self-identified as Shaper, but we don't know if that is true.

Person Y battled TRVA123, who turned out to be a Shaper. We don't know Y's motivations. We also don't know who attacked whom in the first place, although it looked a bit like Y attacked TRVA123 for sure and they defended.

Furthermore, we know the following:

--- Quote from: Unicorn on 13 Apr 2013, 19:04 ---Gareth's body was laid out in the street, badly mutilated. If there was a fight, he didn't put up much of one - his knife was unsheathed, his body covered in stab wounds and severe burns, flesh and armour burned away, melted from what could only be an acidic spell.

--- End quote ---

At least Acid-Person A, but possibly also Stabby-Person B, attacked Gareth. It is also worth noting  that we have seen Y use both daggers and acid, which may indicate they are Acid-Person A AND Stabby-Person B. In fact, I am gonna take this as my working hypothesis, because it's more likely than assuming that A and B attacked Gareth independently.

If Y=B, then Person X (the one stabbing The Cactus) is a new attacker, but only under the assumption that X did not teleport from their boat to the middle of the city to engage TRVA.

So for now, I am gonna assume the following:


* Stabcidic Person Y killed both Gareth and TRVA123
* We don't know the motives of Stabcidic Person Y
* Stabcidic Person Y acted on the first night
* Person X killed de_la_Nae
* Person X is either a Shaper or just wanted to make us think they are a Shaper
* Person X did not use Shaping to kill de_la_Nae
* Person X is either employed by the Shapers or not member of the Shaper faction at all or they are a Shaper who prefers traditional weapons
* Person X did not act on the first night

I shall also notice that noone playing my game died (not even cesium133, which was surprising to me), which means I am a beacon of luck and radiate positive energy all over the place, so everyone join my game!

Speaking of which, I roll Knowledge (Lore) to find out if Acidic Spray is a spell of the Shapers.

--- End quote ---

so what you're saying is that we have two killers on our hands here.

that's a lot of text to say very little.

Loki:
Not precisely. I am trying to figure out how many factions are in the fight, their targets, and the mechanics which trigger a battle.

Game and Watch Forever:

--- Quote from: Loki on 14 Apr 2013, 00:47 ---Why would I be serving Shapers? Their goals are not mine and vice-versa.

--- End quote ---


--- Quote from: Loki on 19 Apr 2013, 03:35 ---I went back and checked who got innocent mtmerrick killed.

--- End quote ---

I quote these because I think there's a little clashing between the statements. The first reads as though Loki is likely a rebel. But (I think) mtmerrick was a villager for the pro-shaper faction, since the shapers watched over the refugees. So it's a little weird that a rebel would think someone on the other side was innocent. This could probably be spun several different ways, so I will simply ask Loki to elaborate what he meant exactly in these statements for the sake of knowing where to go from there.

Loki:
First of all, thank you for not jumping to conclusions, but asking for my input instead.

As I have stated before, my goal is to create an arrangement of the universe most conductive to my needs. My goals do not lie with the Shapers, nor against them, they are rather... orthogonal, if the term may be applicable. Thus, if a Shaper and I were to meet, we would probably have little to say to each other.

I am, however, not sure how you expect me to make a convincing argument here. If I state to side with any Shapers, I will surely receive an unpleasant visit from the rebels the night. If I state to side with any rebels, my visitors would probably be of the sort like the creations we have seen TRVA conjure, and I have a bad feeling about that. If I state to be a factionless villager, you might assume that I am only saying this to escape a trial swayed by whatever faction.

I regard mtmerrick to be a casualty of war, a man who came from nowhere, was thrown into a society which was apparently most alien to him, and then was lynched for crimes he did not commit. As such, his death pains me, as it did not bring any of the sides justice, nor knowledge, and I bore no ill will against him.

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