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WCDT: 2425-2429 (15-19 April, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
techkid:
Unfortunately, the QCVerse, while pretty upbeat (and with cool shit like AnthroPCs and personal spacecraft and orbital laboratory/home), is still far from ideal. Like Border Reiver said, people are still people. While we still possess that nasty habit of thinking one viewpoint, opinion or lifestyle to be "better" than another, there will be hate (for a minor case in point, start a "Sub vs Dub" thread in any anime forum and watch the flamewar burn).
Zebediah:
Zoe, I have to say that the first thing I thought of when I read QC this morning (even before I read Jeph's newspost) was the stories you've told us here about the terrors trans people have to face. It's been enlightening, in an extremely disturbing way, and you've changed the way I think. So I'm just saying thanks for educating us on this.
That being said, Clinton is way over-reacting in this case. Perhaps understandably - sure, he's just worried about his sister and a guy he doesn't know too well yet - but we all know that Marten is the last guy who would even think about abusing Claire.
Neko_Ali:
I'm not so sure he was fussed about Claire being drunk around Marten, who he knows somewhat. Or being drunk around a bunch of strangers. I kind of suspect the latter though. All things given though, Marten's family and their friends seem cool enough about people who don't fit into the standard molds, so I doubt they would have any problem with Claire being trans, if they haven't figured it out already. Of course, Clinton has no way to know them, and he tends to over react anyway, to a lot of things...
Valdís:
--- Quote from: ZoeB on 16 Apr 2013, 03:30 ---I guess I was hoping that a post-singularity world, with AI people and orbital habitats would be a little less like this one in that regard. Though AI rights are something new and controversial to some, so it was no surprise.
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Yeah, not to mention: "I hate to sound pessmistic, but we're still working on racism, sexism, homophobia ..."
So Transphobia isn't exactly a stretch. It does tend to be overlooked by people who don't know someone trans*. If that scene happened now in the comic he'd probably say it.
--- Quote from: ZoeB on 16 Apr 2013, 03:30 ---Of the characters, I'm still more like Momo than Claire.
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Yeah, and Momo was up there with Hanners already. But there's something to be said for actual representations rather than just relatable or allegorical ones. :)
--- Quote from: ZoeB on 16 Apr 2013, 03:30 ---"Square" to use a word even older than I am. Just... maternal?
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Awesomely so. <3
Just Karen:
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 16 Apr 2013, 04:55 ---Zoe, I have to say that the first thing I thought of when I read QC this morning (even before I read Jeph's newspost) was the stories you've told us here about the terrors trans people have to face. It's been enlightening, in an extremely disturbing way, and you've changed the way I think. So I'm just saying thanks for educating us on this.
That being said, Clinton is way over-reacting in this case. Perhaps understandably - sure, he's just worried about his sister and a guy he doesn't know too well yet - but we all know that Marten is the last guy who would even think about abusing Claire.
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I disagree. Yeah, she happened to be with Marten at the end of the night, but she wasn't (necessarily) with him the entire time she was drunk. What if one of the other attendees happened to be an extremely transphobic person? Just because it's a marriage between two guys (therefore limiting the list of people with possible issues to "people OK with gays"), doesn't mean they're OK with a transgender person - there is a fairly large contingent of "Radical Feminists" (I prefer to call them "Conservative Feminists", or "ConFem" for short) in the lesbian community that object strongly to our presence and/or existence. Google "Cathy Brennan" and "Michigan Womyn's Festival". Separately, to get the full impact.
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