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WCDT: 2425-2429 (15-19 April, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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Pilchard123:
As did mine - though I thought it ran really well, since the last desktop computer I had was a 98 (possibly SE, can't remember) upgrade from a 95. Luckily, I was given 7GB of free RAM from work when I left. They were chucking out some machines and I asked if I could salvage the parts. I also got an entire tower out of it as well.

GarandMarine:
Vista wasn't awful once you beat it into line. I like 7, I'm hoping to skip 8 completely.

westrim:
*Tech hat*
Between 3 laptops bought at different times with wildly different specification orientations, I've used the last three operating systems, two for at least 3 years each. Here is my opinion:

Vista got a bad rap for issues that were mostly normal teething problems or manufacturers being minimum spec abusing twerps, but with the benefit of hindsight it was objectively a pretty decent operating system and a worthy evolution of Windows. My bargain basement laptop from 2008 ran it fine.

Windows 8 similarly gets a bad rap, but from personally using it for the last 3 months, I can say that most of the dark rumors I heard about it are bunk. All it required was a bit of poking around, and I barely see the start screen or any of its apps anymore. The performance improvements are noticeable, everything I'd been told was gone was still there, and holy heck the progress bar for moving files is actually informative, realistic, and accurate.

Waiting for the next OS after Windows 8 is a fools errand. It's a bridge between the desktop and the future as far as Microsoft is concerned, and the next OS will likely be completely Metro like, with no desktop. I think this is a fundamental error stemming from confusing about the difference between using a computer to consume or to produce and will cripple Windows as a productivity platform, but they didn't ask me.

mtmerrick:
I was with you up until this point:
--- Quote from: Westrim on 20 Apr 2013, 02:41 ---Waiting for the next OS after Windows 8 is a fools errand. It's a bridge between the desktop and the future as far as Microsoft is concerned, and the next OS will likely be completely Metro like, with no desktop. I think this is a fundamental error stemming from confusing about the difference between using a computer to consume or to produce and will cripple Windows as a productivity platform, but they didn't ask me.
--- End quote ---

Which is bull, because we've SEEN Windows Blue, its NOT a huge departure from 8. In fact they're so similar they're calling it WIndows 8.1 - basically its windows 8 without all the stupid limitations.

Yes, Microsoft wants the desktop to go away. but right now Windows Phone 8 is a more capable platform than WIndows RT, and RT basically is W8 without the desktop. "PC metro apps" are so far from being able to replace the entirety of the desktop its not even funny.

Plus, there are a LOT of programs people use on a daily basis that simply can't work as a metro (or metro-only) app, due to code and framework restraints. Things like Browsers, media players, and games. much less something that requires heavy lifting like Revit.  :psyduck:

Microsoft won't be killing off the desktop anytime soon.

Masterpiece:
I have used Windows 8 on a tablet and it seriously flies. But while the first pass of Win 8 was clearly tablet only (I remember the developer preview, and that one was horrible to use with mice), the final product is pretty well operable with a mouse. Granted, the behavior clashes between desktop and metro don't make sense and hurt usability, but if you use gestures like hot corners and swipe from top to bottom, it's very usable.
mtmerrick, why would you want to wait for Windows Blue, which so far looks like nothing more like a feature update to Windows 8, the snow to OSXs leopard? It's not gonna be fundamentally different, the official name is Windows 8.1
My opinion on the start screen is a bit split. But before I get into that topic, I want to ask you: Do you still use the start menu? I know I never did, unless I wanted to access the universal search that was in it. The start screen still goes to search once you type, a vastly improved search, I might add.

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