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Detective Comics Cinematic Universe (formerly Man of Steel)
Blue Kitty:
So far people are saying it's better than Batman vs. Superman, but not as good as Wonder Woman.
Method of Madness:
So...it's a movie that exists is what people are saying.
Blue Kitty:
Basically, it was supposed to be first Avengers level and it didn't reach that
TheEvilDog:
I've said it before, but its worth repeating.
DC and Warner Bros left it far too long to create a cinematic universe (or rather, they wasted an opportunity). Instead, Marvel was able to create the MCU, taking four years to establish the main players before bringing their premier team to the big screen.
Marvel produced Iron Man to establish the universe, The Incredible Hulk expanded on some of the key concepts, Thor brought the main villain of Phase 1 and gave him motivation, Iron Man 2 had the impact of Stark's history and the effect on the future and The First Avenger gave the ideal to live up to. Only then did they bring everything together for the finale of Phase 1.
By contrast, the DCEU had Superman not quite living up to the ideal he presents in the comic, Batman is presented as something of a brutal vigilante (and before anyone says anything, despite how he is presented in other media, Bruce Wayne is one of the most compassionate people in the DC stable). Suicide Squad, well, too much in too short a time and like the other DCEU films didn't live up to the hype. Of the four films before Justice League, Wonder Woman was the only one that felt like the character and not some Dark-Age-Life-Is-Angst crap that the previous films presented.
Marvel had a five for five rating for Phase 1, with solid story telling and a great deal of consistency. The only thing consistent about the DCEU right now is its inconsistency. Warner Bros were a decade too late getting their thumb out of their back and they're paying for it now with rushed jobs.
BenRG:
Well, I went to see Justice League and...
(click to show/hide)... Frankly, I have no idea what movie all the negative reviewers went to see.
It was a completely adequate movie. Hardly a work of art but it met my expectations in all areas and even exceeded them in some.
Positives? Only one of the fight scenes had Zach Snyder's characteristic confusing camera work and there was only one 'tribute to 300' scene that was so brief that it actually emphasised the scale of the struggle, not trivialise or cloud it. The lighter (doubtless Wheadon-originated) moments blended in well and, whilst the newer characters didn't receive as much depth as they could have had, they were still well-realised enough that you get what they're about.
There are a few nice touches here and then, with an ending focus on the 'Trinity' of Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman before we cut to the credits to a rising medly of John Williams' Superman, Danny Elfman's Batman and Hans Zimmer's Is She With You (the Wonder Woman battle theme). You are left with the undoubted sense that, yes, there are heroes protecting this world (much like you did at the end of The Avengers).
Negatives? The film takes too much as read. We needed a better insight into how Bruce learned so much about the Apokalipsians. It is mentioned that he has access to Luthor's notes but he still has knowledge about them that is inexplicable and that the film, sandwiched into an arbitrary 120-minute run time, doesn't have time to explain.
Probably the most disconcerting part of the film is the fact that, at the end, you realise that Wheadon edited it into an act-by-act duplicate of Avengers. However, I strongly suspect that this was the mandate given to him by Warner Brothers.
Overall Mark: 7/10 - Not as good as Wonder Woman but good enough. I don't feel the need to see it again but I do not feel robbed having seen it. (£13 seat price! :cry: )
Recommendation: Wait for the end-of-credits hook for what I assume is Justice League 2. A few old enemies appear to be drawing plans of their own.
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