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WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
kyraeus:
Beyond all the above, which seem pretty good, the thing that struck me almost immediately upon reading today's, was that it's extremely ironic and kinda downright pissy of the two of them to be sniping about Marten's lack of direction. I mean, let's look back a bit.
Faye initially completely treats him more or less like crap after he opens all of what little he has to her, then lets her own past and emotional issues completely dump over any advances he might have tried to make, and then more or less sidesteps any relationship with him by saying 'oh, sorry, I have issues. It wouldn't be fair. Move along, please.'. While on one hand that's introspective, you gotta figure that'll screw a guy's ego over a bit and make him not exactly in a hurry to push for better.
Then what happens next? Dora pretty much hops on him as free, then almost immediately ends up dumping him, ALSO due to her own issues and mental fears. Is it two for one sale this year on massive female problems? That of course, is WITHOUT adding in the fact that now suddenly Faye's just FINE enough to go off and have someone to be with now.
I mean, at least now he's not all blah about not getting any, but let's face it, after the duo of emotional issues like that, who would WANT to go out and find anyone new or to push for better? In his position, I'd be thinking 'Why bother? Every time I try for something better than this, I get crapped on by the universe and roll not just a one, but a SERIES of ones. Screw that. I'll be here, playing my guitar and chilling out where it's relatively safe'.
I'm not saying it's completely their fault. Everyone has had shitty times in their life like that sometimes. But it seems just a liiiiiittle bit wrong of them to be sitting around griping about his lack of direction, when they kinda both contributed to said lack of direction by screwing him over each in their own way. Whether he's okay with that is kinda not even really in question there, as he basically for the most part seems to have a bit of serious California zen going on. 'The Dude abides, man'.
Border Reiver:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 08 May 2013, 07:30 ---(looks at watch)
(looks at page number)
"There's still time for us to hit 10 pages by Thursday night..."
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Why worry about things like that? There's plenty of other things to concern yourself with, such as
a. How threadbare is the "TEH" tshirt by now;
b. Are we going to get a real shift in the life of one of the characters in the next few weeks;
c. Can the posters in this forum stop overanalyzing the strip;
d. Will I have enough time to get a decent dinner before I have to report for duty this evening;
e. Is there enough space ham; and
f. Who's shipping who?
cesium133:
Obviously, when they're not performing for the comic, the characters ship various members of the forum. Some of the pairings they come up with are horrific.
Madmartigan:
--- Quote from: kyraeus on 08 May 2013, 08:03 ---Beyond all the above, which seem pretty good, the thing that struck me almost immediately upon reading today's, was that it's extremely ironic and kinda downright pissy of the two of them to be sniping about Marten's lack of direction. I mean, let's look back a bit.
Faye initially completely treats him more or less like crap after he opens all of what little he has to her, then lets her own past and emotional issues completely dump over any advances he might have tried to make, and then more or less sidesteps any relationship with him by saying 'oh, sorry, I have issues. It wouldn't be fair. Move along, please.'. While on one hand that's introspective, you gotta figure that'll screw a guy's ego over a bit and make him not exactly in a hurry to push for better.
Then what happens next? Dora pretty much hops on him as free, then almost immediately ends up dumping him, ALSO due to her own issues and mental fears. Is it two for one sale this year on massive female problems? That of course, is WITHOUT adding in the fact that now suddenly Faye's just FINE enough to go off and have someone to be with now.
I mean, at least now he's not all blah about not getting any, but let's face it, after the duo of emotional issues like that, who would WANT to go out and find anyone new or to push for better? In his position, I'd be thinking 'Why bother? Every time I try for something better than this, I get crapped on by the universe and roll not just a one, but a SERIES of ones. Screw that. I'll be here, playing my guitar and chilling out where it's relatively safe'.
I'm not saying it's completely their fault. Everyone has had shitty times in their life like that sometimes. But it seems just a liiiiiittle bit wrong of them to be sitting around griping about his lack of direction, when they kinda both contributed to said lack of direction by screwing him over each in their own way. Whether he's okay with that is kinda not even really in question there, as he basically for the most part seems to have a bit of serious California zen going on. 'The Dude abides, man'.
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Gotta agree here....After the way Marten has been treated by these two on many occasion, I don't see where they have room to talk exactly. Love the characters, but Marten does not need to be brought up. If you wanna push him and try and get him to do a gig, talk to him about it. Don't deride Marten to make Faye feel better, who is ever more stalled than Marten considering Faye is in a relationship and is stalling Angus' dream (however unintentionally she's doing it).
I'm biased. Ever since Dora's breakup with Marten, I just haven't liked her as much. (Her hitching with Tai is another matter entirely I exhausted long ago when it started).
I will say, it isn't exactly like Marten dwelled on those 2 stringing him along (or in Dora's case, being a control freak who sabotaged everything). He's moved on. And that's at least a sense of direction. He wanted to explore things with Padma, but the universe fudged him over. He's been fudged over a lot.
Anyway, I don't even think Dora/Faye are the ones that are going to motivate him. Marten just needs one good thing to happen to him (which there hasn't been a lot of) to get him moving.
Bah. I'm just ranting now. Folks have already said it better. Basically Faye is stalling herself with no direction and stalling Angus' dream as well (unintentionally, but even soo...) and Dora really just has no room to talk.
I mean damn. Dora was in stalled limbo as well and unless someone forced her into counseling, she'd still be off sabotaging romantic relationships. Bah. Just didn't like that last panel.
Smallest:
--- Quote from: Redball on 08 May 2013, 06:27 ---I wonder how motivated Marten would be if he had a girl friend. I'm wondering the same about myself, to be honest.
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I think, knowing his character, a serious girlfriend/LTR might motivate him, but to us viewers it would look like the opposite, since that first little while would be more 'whoo girlfriend' than 'let's make my/our future look good' and a little while in comic is a long time to us.
On the other hand, a more casual relationship would probably have no effect, and it turning into something more serious over time might ground him.
On the other other hand, Padma and Dora both went bad for him, and it would probably be best he waits a while before seeing someone again.
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