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WCDT: 2445-2449 (13-17 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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pwhodges:

--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 16 May 2013, 10:40 ---
--- Quote from: ankhtahr on 16 May 2013, 10:29 ---Umlauts are separate letters in German as well, at least in most definitions.

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It's a quirk of German education in the United States that umlauts are taught as a "modifier" instead of a separate letter.
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Well, not that odd given that they can also be written ae, oe, and ue.  And in Norwegian and Danish (not in Swedish) you can still come across aa used for å.

KOK:
In German ö is an o with an umlaut, and is alphabetized as oe. In Swedish ö is a letter in its own right, the last letter of the alphabet.

It was Natasha who came up with the name. I doubt she knows what those dots mean.

Pilchard123:

--- Quote from: Mr_Rose on 16 May 2013, 11:18 ---bad English on T-shirts in Japan.

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I read somewhere that the bad English actually sells better than corrected English. Either way, the intent is partly the same as not-mandarin tattoos - to look 'exotic'. (There was a guy in my Maths class that had a shirt with...something on it. The two people that could read it thought it was hilarious.)

ankhtahr:

--- Quote from: KOK on 16 May 2013, 13:04 ---In German ö is an o with an umlaut, and is alphabetized as oe.

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The German word Umlaut is not the description of the modifier, but describes the three letters "Ä", "Ö" and "Ü". A "O with Umlaut" would be something like "OÖ", which is not being used in the German language.

Yes, if the letter Ä, Ö or Ü are not to be used (for technical reasons) you're supposed to write ae, oe and ue, but in the same way the letter ß can be transcribed as "ss", but ß is still a separate letter.

Pilchard123:
So how do you distinguish Ä, Ö and Ü? "It's an Umlaut!" "Which one?"

Or does "Umlaut" describe a class more like vowel/consonant?

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