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ackblom12:
The Xbox One launch package is a mess of smart decisions

I'm fairly certain you could power an entire city with the amount of backpedaling MS has done in the last few months. The backpedaling has been 99% good at least.

RedWolf4:
I wonder if local stores will do trade in against the next gen consoles. . . hmmm. . .

snalin:
A lot of good backpedaling, but it's still $100 more expensive than it has to be because it bundles with a peripheral that few people nobody wants or needs. The included headset is better than having to pay for it, but it is still using, as far as I can  remember, a proprietary socket. So I still can't use whatever headphones I want with it. I suspect it's to late to do anything about either of those problems.

Game and Watch Forever:

--- Quote from: snalin on 09 Aug 2013, 05:43 ---A lot of good backpedaling, but it's still $100 more expensive than it has to be because it bundles with a peripheral that few people nobody wants or needs.
--- End quote ---

I'm interested in seeing what Kinect 2.0 can do. I can't remember if it's been mentioned here or not, but the good thing about bundling it is that it's actually a part of the console everyone has and therefore every developer will know they can include kinect features without alienating anyone. Making it an optional buy reduces the incentive to do so. PS3's camera is surely going to get less support, but it really doesn't seem like a priority for Sony.

ackblom12:
I'm well aware of the positive side of it being bundled, but my issue with the Kinect being bundled is simply that I'm not actually sure who was asking for it. It certainly wasn't gamers. It's just not something that I'm convinced will be anything but clunky in comparison to the controller. I mean, at this point, the fact that the PS4 and PC won't end up with games that have forced Kinect options makes me damn happy and in the event I get a One, less likely to get it on that platform.

X-BoX One Controller Can Work as Wired PC Gamepad

This is good news, but it sounds like they are going to have to write new drivers for it and those won't be available until some time in 2014.

And yet more backpedaling...

X-Box One Will Function Without Kinect Says MS

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