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Pilchard123:
I would so love for those to be the actual ad campaign. :-D

satsugaikaze:

--- Quote from: Sorflakne on 24 May 2013, 11:40 ---Ah, doyee...should've thought of that, since it sounds like a console version of Steam.

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Basically this, really!
That's what I get from it the more I read up on this new Xbox. But then again, it's Microsoft so it's clearly the devil.
I'm interested to see what Microsoft are going to do with this upcoming E3. Sony seemed to have booked out 2/3rds of the area, probably to strongarm the other 2 out of sight for their big PS4 reveal.

It would take a colossal fuck-up for Sony not to dominate E3, simply by virtue of owning the majority of the floorspace - whether or not the console details released are actually good.

Also, I actually like the new controller. I've never had consumer loyalty or preference for any game console (and I like the Dualshock and 360 controller pretty much equally), and this new iteration basically looks like the 360 controller except without a shit d-pad. They seem to have gone for Sony's approach to controllers - why fix what isn't broke, right?

Masterpiece:
The Xbox 360 controller was pretty amazing to hold anyway. I remember the first time I saw it and thought "wow this looks like crap" but after holding it I was very quickly convinced otherwise. I like that it was so much bigger than the Dualshock controllers which I had been using up to that point. And the shoulder buttons were easier to push repeatedly imho.

LTK:

--- Quote from: satsugaikaze on 27 May 2013, 06:31 ---Basically this, really!
That's what I get from it the more I read up on this new Xbox. But then again, it's Microsoft so it's clearly the devil.
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You know, it would be more of an apt comparison if it weren't for the fact that Steam is not essential to PC gaming. If Steam goes bust and shuts down all their servers I can still play the games I have installed on my hard drive even though I can't download the ones I didn't have installed. But if the XBone's Live accounts stop being supported at some point in the future, you're left with a useless chunk of plastic and sillicon... right?


--- Quote ---I'm interested to see what Microsoft are going to do with this upcoming E3. Sony seemed to have booked out 2/3rds of the area, probably to strongarm the other 2 out of sight for their big PS4 reveal.
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Don't you mean 'other one'? ;)

satsugaikaze:
I think it the efficiency of a controller really boils down to the way the games use the layout. My older brother (who is a complete klutz when it comes to console gaming, being mostly PC-centric) picked up on the Dualshock a little faster, probably because the symmetry of the controller has a sort of simplicity that makes it easier to learn. Having the d-pad closer to the thumb probably lends itself to less-stressful menu navigation (especially for menu-heavy games like RPGs).

The bumper buttons on the Dualshock are way inferior to the 360 controller's shoulder and trigger buttons imo, which have much more tangible pull to them past the usual *click*. The 360 controller's c-stick placement possibly puts it in better stead overall with the shooter genre.


--- Quote from: LTK on 27 May 2013, 06:48 ---You know, it would be more of an apt comparison if it weren't for the fact that Steam is not essential to PC gaming. If Steam goes bust and shuts down all their servers I can still play the games I have installed on my hard drive even though I can't download the ones I didn't have installed. But if the XBone's Live accounts stop being supported at some point in the future, you're left with a useless chunk of plastic and sillicon... right?
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But really, isn't it?
The majority of PC games I've ordered lately - to be fair, mostly Eidos/Square Enix games like Deus Ex, Sleeping Dogs and Tomb Raider - have made Steam a mandatory component in order to even install the game, let alone play it. I will concede that there are little bullshit things like the check-into-the-servers-once-a-day that differentiate Xbox One's system from that of Steam, but fundamentally it's the same - mandatory installation with registration of the game solely for individual use, locked to a single account.

I remember being absolutely livid when I picked up Modern Warfare 2 for the first time, and had to jump through bullshit hoops just to register a Steam account and install the game, because back then the Steam servers were absolute horseshit. Now Steamworks in a PC game is nothing to bat an eyelid at, because everyone just got used to it.


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--- Quote ---I'm interested to see what Microsoft are going to do with this upcoming E3. Sony seemed to have booked out 2/3rds of the area, probably to strongarm the other 2 out of sight for their big PS4 reveal.
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Don't you mean 'other one'? ;)
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Well, completely missed that. Can't blame them, really.

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