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MillionDollar Belt Sander:
I've heard from the owner of a PBY that he regrets buying it, it is far more difficult to keep flying than other comparable warbirds due to the way the frame is built.

Patrick:
yeah dude, shit, I coulda told him that. I mean, the wings are mounted to a post sticking up out of the fuselage, and then there's all the structural concessions they had to make for the dorsal gun blisters and the landing gear (assuming it's a PBY-5A or later). Plus the bomb bay, if it has one (I actually have never bothered to look)

Redball:

--- Quote from: Patrick on 09 May 2013, 17:05 ---yeah dude, shit, I coulda told him that. I mean, the wings are mounted to a post sticking up out of the fuselage, and then there's all the structural concessions they had to make for the dorsal gun blisters and the landing gear (assuming it's a PBY-5A or later). Plus the bomb bay, if it has one (I actually have never bothered to look)

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Patrick, how/why did you learn so much about ancient aircraft? Hobby? I was 8 when WWII ended, could tell at that age the difference between the B-17 and B-24 (my mom worked on B-24 engines) and remembered the PBY in postwar years. But I couldn't imagine how a bomb bay was fitted into a hull, and still can't. I had to laugh at the Wikipedia entry, describing how an early design couldn't take off in some circumstances because the tail would partially submerge. Ooops!

snalin:

--- Quote from: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 09 May 2013, 17:31 ---After this hurdle is cleared someone is going to come forward demanding protections of copyrighted shapes/patterns.    I foresee Lego leading the pack on that one -- everyone (including myself) foresees a future of toys produced at home.    Companies are going to want to make sure that you can't download a file and xerox 10,000 copies at the flip of a switch. 
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That is really interesting. I'm interested if there is any way Lego could leverage it's big machinery of mass production to outprice the home producers - basically making it cheaper to buy blocks than to print blocks. Problem is, of course, that Lego doesn't really sell the simple blocks as much as they are selling themed packs of very specific (and horrendously overpriced for fucking plastic) parts - a star wars ship or a pirate cave or something like that. There's no way those things won't be cheaper to make at home.

It'd also be really interesting to see how far their copyright goes - from what I can see on wikipedia, they have not been able to to successfully sue for damages against companies that produce compatible blocks (the patent is long since expired, and the shapes are too functional to be considered a trademark), so it's very unlikely that they could in any way prevent people with printers from doing that.

Patrick:

--- Quote from: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 09 May 2013, 17:31 ---
--- Quote from: celticgeek on 09 May 2013, 17:13 ---State Department gets involved.

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As long as they make the distinction between "dangerous shapes/designs/patterns" and "dangerous technology" I see no problems going forward.

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I don't like the idea of some asshole sitting in a room full of other assholes, all trying to tell me what shapes I'm not allowed to mold plastic into.


--- Quote from: Redball on 09 May 2013, 17:54 ---Patrick, how/why did you learn so much about ancient aircraft? Hobby? I was 8 when WWII ended, could tell at that age the difference between the B-17 and B-24 (my mom worked on B-24 engines) and remembered the PBY in postwar years. But I couldn't imagine how a bomb bay was fitted into a hull, and still can't. I had to laugh at the Wikipedia entry, describing how an early design couldn't take off in some circumstances because the tail would partially submerge. Ooops!

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Before I learned how to play an instrument, I was obsessed with airplanes. I spent every minute of my free time listening to music and reading airplane books. My best days were spent at airshows, talking to all the old pilot vets and sponging up as much info as possible. I played flight sim games on the computer, had box sets of WWII gun camera footage, watched Black Sheep Squadron on History Channel all the time, built plastic models, everything. My favorite airplanes are the North American P-82 and the Northrop P-61A (the P-61B was stupid, how you gonna delete the turret that made the Black Widow so badass in the first place?). My grandpa was the RO in a P-61 on Guadalcanal.

Obsessed, dude.

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