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GarandMarine:

--- Quote from: Lupercal on 08 Jun 2013, 02:50 ---
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 06 Jun 2013, 15:26 ---Kicks to the head are dangerous in an actual self defense situation, leaves you exposed and off balance for too long, knees and groins are much better targets.

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Well, it wasn't for 'self defence' purposes (although learning to kick properly at the shin was). The only way to properly win sparring matches and to get to senior student level is to be able to kick at head height. Taekwondo literally means 'the way of the foot and hand'. Our teacher was very strict on not applying absolutely everything we learned at TKD to be used in a self-defence situation. Common sense > blue belt techniques.

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Ahhh I missed the comments about sparring, my apologies. Yeah kicks to the head are freaking AWESOME for points sparring. A kick's two points and putting your leg upside someone's skull is just shy of impossible for the corner judges to miss. My legs are jacked these days but I could probably train back to the point where I can kick dudes a couple inches taller then me in the skull without too much issue. Again for sparring purposes a kick or blow to the head is great on tall dudes. They don't expect it and have never worried about it before for the most part. It shakes them up a little. (Well in addition to the brain rattle you just gave'em)

So I have a slightly interesting subject, weapons forms have literally been part of martial arts since their development to one end or another, and many weapons have their own styles and arts independent of any other system. (Iaido, Kenjutsu, various knife, stick and a great many other weapons forms) so comes my question, does firearms training count as martial arts? Or perhaps only limited forms of weapons training focused on combat or self defense? It's obviously not the same as traditional martial arts in the modern day and age, that might look something more like Equilibrium's gun kata.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=tINWl0gzQWI
However there is undoubtedly form and technique applied to developing these real world combat techniques, stance in particular is vital to turning your body into a fast, mobile and above all accurate shooting platform, in particular with pistols, for which poor stance is absolutely disastrous. Mental acuity and situational awareness, prized in all martial arts, is vital to the combat or defensive shooter in "the field", being aware of your surrounds is the ultimate key to survival, though added technique like assessing, selecting and moving to cover is mostly unique to firearms. For some video example of a high level combat shooter engaging in competition "three gun" shooting, which is highly tactical in nature, I'd like to present a brief compilation of Army Staff Sergeant Daniel Horner.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayb2V5w_vu4(When he's firing up into the air with his shotgun he's taking out clay pigeons)

I honestly don't have much of an opinion either way, though I personally have never thought of or referred to marksmanship training as martial arts practice.

Is it cold in here?:
It is if archery is.

GarandMarine:
Archery... can be? I dunno Kyudo is considered a martial art, and the Japanese practice a lot of their traditional bow arts in addition to meditative archery (I actually do something similar with a rifle every now and then to relax after a day on the range) but in Europe we've lost a lot of "combat" archery or even traditional archery forms that used to be the standard, with modern sport archery almost completely supplanting the old techniques and ways.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g(Apologies for the voice over in this video)

BeoPuppy:
There are more than a few clubs keeping ancient bowshooting traditions alive. And they practice and hold competitions and stuff. It seems a martial art to me.

I loved equilibrium's action sequences. Other than that it's a poor man's 1984, of course.



(click to show/hide)I saw one guy sitting on a bench at a recent Jujitsui training holding ... something ... grubby. Usually he'd be on the mat. Turns out that in a recent MMA training he took he got kneed in the stomach. Turns out that what he was holding was the bag that his torn pancreas was draining into. They didn't want operate immediately. It might heal itself.

ackblom12:
Equilibrium is basically a fan fiction crossover of 1984, Fahrenheit 451 and The Matrix. It's just so stupid and fun it's glorious.

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