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WCDT: 2500-2504 (29 July- August 2, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
SageJiraiya:
Personally, I admit to having expectations of people who subscribe to a specific gender.
I think more people are heterosexual than homosexual.
I observe that most believe female homosexuality is more socially acceptable than male homosexuality.
For me personally, I find two girls more attractive than two guys, but I blame that on my heterosexual nature.
Even though I honestly expect men and women to act in specific ways, I see no problem if they do not.
Whether it's sexuality, marriage, clothing, piercings, or style of speech, people are entitled to act as they please as long as they do not harm anyone.
Raised by two gay moms, it was a little tough for me to not have a male role model. Even today I am more comfortable sexually and socially with women than men.
I knew a FTM guy in high school who was into girls. Does that mean all trans people are into the opposite sex of their desired gender? Of course not.
Although it's perfectly fine to love whomever you like, I do expect that a FTM trans person likes females while a MTF person likes males. I hold no judgement on people who don't meet this stereotype.
My parents NEVER wore dresses, but they also shaved regularly and maintained a feminine appearance. I also knew family friends who handled themselves in a much different manner, and although it wasn't what I was used to, I saw no problem in it.
I don't believe in equality.
I believe in equal opportunity.
That does not mean everyone gets the same thing. It means everyone gets what they need to be in the same place.
I believe women and men are inherently different. Their chromosomes differ between them, their hormones differ between them, and their libidos differ between them.
They are physically different beings, thus giving them the same things would not necessarily result in an even playing field.
Instead of modifying ourselves to fit the current baseline, we need to set a baseline and get everyone to it.
Men and women deserve equal opportunity, and although this is not a judgement on superiority of one sex over another, I think men are statistically more likely to succeed in this world. Especially white anglo-saxon protestant men.
I don't want the world to be this way, but it's what I observe and it's how it seems to stay.
wiserd:
@sage - This seems like wisdom. I'm fine with multiple baselines according to the situation, though. Normal for an 80 year old man will not be normal for a 12 year old boy.
wiserd:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 07 Aug 2013, 21:57 ---
But you really need to shake yourself free of the notion that people are abusing your language usage, especially since you've had to apologize for "misspeaking" so often! The speech isn't the problem - your clarifications have drawn the same reactions as the originals - the problem is the thinking behind the speech.
Open your mind just a little further, and the light might have a chance to shine in.
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I'll acknowledge that my phrasing could have been more accurate in some places, given more time to revise and proofread. But internet fora are what they are.
The thing is, I stand behind my thinking till someone gives a coherent example of something better. I'm not fresh off the farm. I'm 35, been to college, traveled quite a bit, had a fairly diverse group of friends, have scored exceptionally high on standard measures of problem solving (for whatever that's worth. I don't buy into the whole notion of general intelligence. But certain types can be measured. ) I probably consider my beliefs as valid as you consider yours, and have as much reason to believe that. If I told you to "open your mind just a little further and the light might have a chance to shine in" how would you receive that admonition?
I don't have time to read through 30 pages of text, though. I'm far enough behind on my work as it is. Sorry.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: wiserd on 07 Aug 2013, 22:18 ---I stand behind my thinking till someone gives a coherent example of something better.
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I believe several people have tried to here.
--- Quote ---If I told you to "open your mind just a little further and the light might have a chance to shine in" how would you receive that admonition?
--- End quote ---
I'd wonder what it was I was missing. Then I'd try to find out.
Method of Madness:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 07 Aug 2013, 20:41 ---(moderator)
This is going in circles and not visibly promoting understanding.
(/moderator)
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I agree. And wiserd, you say that you don't have time to read the thread, which would be the equivalent of doing basic research on the topic. That's fine. But you need to understand that you don't understand the issue. I'm going to lock this thread, as there really doesn't seem to be any resolution in sight here. If you do ever get the time, though, I would encourage you to check out that thread, bit by bit. It's not complete (nothing really is, I suppose), but every little bit of knowledge breeds a little bit more understanding.
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