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Metope:
Well, what if it doesn't affect people around them? If you look at the core of most major religions, even as an atheist a lot of it actually makes perfect sense. Sure, you might not buy into the 'devine being' aspect of it, but religion is also about human values, and good values at that. The religious people who are basically trying to ban homosexuality and premarital sex etc etc aren't really preaching Christian/Muslim/Whatever values, they're preaching some weird misinterpretation of it. If you try reading the Bible, you'll find a lot of what it preaches is basically about leading a life where you treat other people with respect and kindness, I can totally get behind that.

When you say religious people need to change because they're not living up to your expectations of what the world looks like, it's exactly the same as when a religious person is telling a non-religious person to convert.

EDIT: Saw your edit after my post, I wasn't trying to be all 'No you listen to me here', sorry if it came across that way.

Thrillho:
I wrote a long reply, I can't be bothered with it. Bye all.

pwhodges:
No extended religious discussion outside Discuss!, please (rules!). 

I could move this thread there, but the main part of it didn't seem to me to deserve that.

Allie_Allie:
I thought this forum was all-accepting and tolerant and shit, but it's quickly proving otherwise. A person does not lose worth, and should not lose respect for what they choose to believe. It's an essential part of who they are as a person, it could be something that they've carried with them all throughout their life. Making someone feel inferior or not as intelligent as you simply because you disagree with their views is fucked up, to be perfectly honest. I'm not Christian nor do I follow any set religion, but I have respect and compassion-- something some of you might be terribly lacking.  My boyfriend is a physics and chemistry major, he's going to medical school hopefully next year, and even he knows not to judge a person by their beliefs. He loves science, he believes in science (as so do I) and yet he doesn't feel the need to belittle others simply because they choose to believe there could be a "greater force" a sort of deity playing a role in our lives. Granted, we might disagree with some people at times, but we don't measure their worth on them agreeing with us or not. I do lose a bit of respect, however, towards people who feel superior to anyone else before even getting to know them. People who judge a book by it's cover and people who aren't accepting of others simply because their views differ. A good example, I think, is a person who is very poor, but is nice to the waiter and always willing to lend a helping hand  vs a very rich man who goes around with a pompous attitude, yelling at waiters and an "I got mine, screw you" attitude.

TRVA123:

--- Quote from: Sorflakne on 02 Oct 2013, 13:10 ---My mother and I visited a street tarot card reader in New Orleans about 14 years ago and I got to see this first hand as he read mom's cards.  Got everything right except for one thing: He was pretty convinced that I was the middle child of a set of fraternal triplets (older brother, me, younger sister).

I've asked mom about this at various times over the years and she's said that I was the only one, and my birth certificate confirms that I was a single birth, but even so, I still wonder about it.  And then I learned some time ago that it's actually sort of common for one twin to "absorb" the other in the womb before development gets too far along, so now I occasionally wonder if I actually was part of a set of triplets and ended up consuming my siblings in the womb.

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Were the other things that the Tarot card reader said so accurate that you feel that this must be accurate too?

I'm just curious. It is a really random thing for a fortune teller to insist on, but it seems like you would have seen some evidence of... absorbed siblings... by now. Maybe not, I don't know that much about the medical stuff.


--- Quote from: Allie_Allie on 02 Oct 2013, 15:21 ---I thought this forum was all-accepting and tolerant and shit, but it's quickly proving otherwise.

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Not so much the entire forum as specific members of the forum about this specific topic. It happens with all topics, it just means that those people might have to reexamine their attitudes. But I don't think it gives licence to condemn the entire forum.

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