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The Seldom Killer:
You don't need to do the experiment, it's already been done.

Studies were carried out into the amount of pollution ingested by cyclists and pedestrians in comparison to drivers. The study had initially expected to show that pedestrians and cyclists were being unduly affected by air pollution caused by road traffic. What the studies did show that pedestrians and cyclists did ingest more large particulate pollution, occupants of motor vehicles were shown to ingest larger volumes of the small particulate pollution. The smaller particulate pollution is the more harmful and more likely to cause cardiac and respiratory disorders. Tests were conducted on modern vehicles with closed windows so the majority of the pollution was coming through the air filter.

If enough of the particulate matter in pepper spray is small enough, it's going to pass through an air filter. Same as when you can tell someone has run over a skunk from several miles downwind while driving along a highway.

Is it cold in here?:

--- Quote from: SubaruStephen on 16 Apr 2015, 21:14 ---I feel an experiment coming on.....

Do you know what was the year, make, and model of the following car? (So I can get the right type of filter from work)

Also, what kind of pepper spray did the instructor use?

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I don't know, but what he teaches is to select OC unblended with CN or CS, in an alcohol carrier. No idea whatever about the car. Uhh, how could you do that experiment safely? Closed course? Driver in PPE and passenger serving as canary while operating a driving simulator?

SubaruStephen:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 17 Apr 2015, 13:09 ---Uhh, how could you do that experiment safely?

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Safe?...leey?? What's that mean?

LeeC:
I should really pay attention. I totally missed this incident back in 2011.  :psyduck:
UC Davis

All I remember seeing at the time was people showing the cops to be just assholes, they did their duty IMHO.

Akima:

--- Quote from: LeeC on 21 Apr 2015, 07:41 ---All I remember seeing at the time was people showing the cops to be just assholes, they did their duty IMHO.

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You say that as if they could not do both at the same time. The narrative with which the page you linked is running seems to be that as long as you warn people ahead of time that you are going to employ violence against them, or spray them with a not-intentionally-lethal chemical weapon, that makes it OK.

As for the "the protesters were told they were breaking the law" line, I'd have to say "Duh! Of course they were; isn't that the whole point?!" The laws were made and enforced by the power-structures against which the protesters were protesting! From at least the days of the Riot Act of 1714 it has been routine to criminalise protest, so drawing attention to the illegality of the UC Davis protest is rather like saying that the sea is wet and salty.

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