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WCDT: 2563-2567 (28 October-1 November 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Is it cold in here?:
I think a lot of us here have been Marigolds.
Absolutely, people shouldn't pressure them. It's intrusive, rude, and reinforces a bad feature of their culture. Romantic partners are not sex toys, or at least they shouldn't be. Getting physical should be allowed to develop in its own time. Which, at their age, will probably be soon enough to distort the relationship anyway.
YourEvilExGirlfriend:
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--- Quote from: Midwesterner on 01 Nov 2013, 08:19 ---^^^Fourthly. Between the assumptions by the other characters, and the whole air of "when are they going to do it?", this thread feels like something that is very rare on QC: this arc feels heavy handed and out of character.
I hope we get back to coffee shop dynamics again soon. Tai and Dora's snarky cameo are the best part of this arc.
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It doesn't feel out of character to me. Members of the QC cast can and do screw up royally and this whole arc feels like it may be used to showcase the potential pitfalls of getting too hyper-involved in your friends' lives.
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I see what you're saying; what I'm getting at is that I'm dismayed that none of the "observing characters" (Marten, Faye, Dora, Momo, etc.) has yet had the thought on whether they're being too heavy handed with a very awkward couple. Their interest in Dale and Marigold seems oddly voyeuristic to me.
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And I would agree with you that their involvement does seem a bit voyeuristic and I share your discomfort in that fact. However, it doesn't at all surprise me that they haven't considered whether they're being heavy-handed or not since most people judge themselves by their intentions, not their behavior. And since they all share the same excitement/goal for Marigold, it's not all the unusual that they'd be blind to it. It's very easy to get caught up in groupthink and excitement and miss the redflags. Ask any family planning a wedding or your typical project team at work-- or any political club on campus. My hope is that an less involved party might make comment about it and the group will back off (perhaps someone like Emily might drive the point home that they've missed the obvious).
Also, we wouldn't have conflict (or much of a story) if all the characters were that self-aware.
--- Quote --- Although part of my discomfort with this arc is that Marigold is probably my least favorite character, so I realize I'm already disposed to dislike this arc.
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That's fair enough. I have a hard time enjoying arcs about my least favourite characters too. As much as it pleases me that there's at least some transgender representation in the comic, I can't say I'm particularly fond of Claire or the interns as far as the 'core' group goes... though my least favourite has to be Jim's daughter, Samantha. I'm relieved she hasn't been around lately.
steveb:
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And I would agree with you that their involvement does seem a bit voyeuristic and I share your discomfort in that fact. However, it doesn't at all surprise me that they haven't considered whether they're being heavy-handed or not since most people judge themselves by their intentions, not their behavior. And since they all share the same excitement/goal for Marigold, it's not all the unusual that they'd be blind to it. It's very easy to get caught up in groupthink and excitement and miss the redflags. Ask any family planning a wedding or your typical project team at work-- or any political club on campus. My hope is that an less involved party might make comment about it and the group will back off (perhaps someone like Emily might drive the point home that they've missed the obvious).
Also, we wouldn't have conflict (or much of a story) if all the characters were that self-aware.
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I'm not sure the characters are being as heavy handed as it seems to us the readers who see everything. Momo and Marten were certainly taking an interest but not in the presence of the people concerned. Not necessarily a good thing but certainly not heavy handed.
Faye certainly put her foot in it (in character for Faye) but you could read the subsequent involvement of Dora as an attempt to help Faye step back from that particular precipice. Up to the point where Dale starts to try and pretend that he is something he is not.
From my time in his shoes I think that kind of pretense might be the worst thing he can do so they may be right to call him on that one.
DSL:
I thought GarandMarine made a good point upthread about the culture of excessive sharing. Seems as though folks feel compelled to "share" every damn detail, right through squick territory without breaking stride, and are offended if you don't want to know the gory details. Could be Dora (who isn't really prying), Faye (who is) and even Dale might think nothing of the level of sharing that has some of us (including me) looking askance.
Man, in my day, TMI meant Three Mile Island.
Kugai:
And there's fallout in both cases. :-D
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