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WCDT: 2593-2597 (09-13 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
ZoeB:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 13 Dec 2013, 14:12 ---In late, but to amplify what ZoeB said, Momo was vividly conscious of being plastic even while she was explicitly being treated like someone made of meat.
"Now and then we all are aliens", and a lot of people here know all about being misfits, but most of us can put it out of our minds temporarily. The experience of having that knowledge be as omnipresent as a kidney stone is qualitatively different.
Evidently it's like that for trans* people, which must be one of the reasons it's so terrible to to look at one with the intent of figuring out how masculine or feminine their appearance is.
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+1 Insightful.
It can be useful though. Hanners would freak if Momo was usual. She did a bit anyway, momentarily forgetting.
Momo needed a hug though. She thought it was safe.
Needing a hug won't be in any social protocol database, something external. It's been internalised.
Growth. Healing.
And maybe by hugging Momo, there's a pathway where Hanners might be able to hug others too, one day. Sometimes being "other" has advantages, it's useful, it can help and make the world a little better.
Jeph is very, very observant, and I don't think we're reading too much into a comic. It's happened too often.
Tulpa:
--- Quote from: PthariensFlame on 13 Dec 2013, 13:09 ---
--- Quote from: Loki on 13 Dec 2013, 05:30 ---For example, I am not consciously going through life with an always running subroutine that tells me who I am.
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Yes, you are, unless you have one of the rare disorders that cause people to lack a sense of self. Do you ever actually think that you inhabit multiple disconnected bodies simultaneously? If not, then that subroutine exists and is constantly active. The problem ZoeB refers to would be better stated as having an attachment to that process that reaffirms a stereotype (in the pen-initial sense of the word). Getting rid of the whole process would solve that problem, but also introduce the far worse one that I just described.
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That's often called the ego. People who take psychedelics at high doses, such as shrooms, can experience ego death which is where that goes away for a little while. Then there's also dissociatives where you feel like you become part of the wall or whatever. Or so I've heard. :psyduck:
draiden:
--- Quote from: Tulpa on 13 Dec 2013, 16:24 ---
--- Quote from: PthariensFlame on 13 Dec 2013, 13:09 ---
--- Quote from: Loki on 13 Dec 2013, 05:30 ---For example, I am not consciously going through life with an always running subroutine that tells me who I am.
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Yes, you are, unless you have one of the rare disorders that cause people to lack a sense of self. Do you ever actually think that you inhabit multiple disconnected bodies simultaneously? If not, then that subroutine exists and is constantly active. The problem ZoeB refers to would be better stated as having an attachment to that process that reaffirms a stereotype (in the pen-initial sense of the word). Getting rid of the whole process would solve that problem, but also introduce the far worse one that I just described.
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That's often called the ego. People who take psychedelics at high doses, such as shrooms, can experience ego death which is where that goes away for a little while. Then there's also dissociatives where you feel like you become part of the wall or whatever. Or so I've heard. :psyduck:
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If I ever get to try shrooms i'll let you know what happens. I can confirm that purple salvia can make you feel llike you're part of other things, you can become part of a color, or see things from other perspectives than the one you're looking from.
Is it cold in here?:
Would you let an AnthroPC make your coffee if it had a chemosensor like Pintsize's? Or if it was as carefully programmed as a Clover machine?
vsonics:
So I enjoyed the comic today, but I had just a teeny bit of an issue with it.
I know that we've been largely looking at it from Momo's perspective here, and that Hanners is fine with touching robots, but I still wish that Momo had actually let go of her when she was screaming about being touched. A reminder that "hey, you're okay because I'm a robot!" is good, but that Momo still had her hands on Hannelore at the end even as she was expressing distress at being touched made me a little uncomfortable.
(Note that I'm not really mad about it - I like the concept Momo/Hannelore hugging. But it would have made the strip better for me.)
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