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Desolation of Smaug
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He's both Smaug and the necromancer!
RedWolf4:
Well now, I did not know that. That's pretty cool.
TheFuriousWombat:
Finally got around to seeing this. First thoughts: Tauriel is Peter Jackson's JarJar Binks - just an awful, obnoxious, and useless character. I enjoyed the movie overall, but there was way too much filler, way too many endless and ultimately pointless Orc slaughtering sequences, and way too much superfluous nonsense - I don't give a shit about some dumb elf having a thing for some other elf and also for some dwarf she just met when it has literally no connection whatsoever to the plot or to character development. I don't see why Legolas had to be involved. I don't know why the Master of Laketown had to be such a goofy caricature or why Bard had to become such a major character with a cliched backstory. The movie could have been a solid hour shorter and would have felt a lot tighter. Turns out that the concerns over stretching the adaptation into a trilogy were pretty justified. That being said, Smaug was cool, Gandalf is badass as always, Martin Freeman is a good actor, the action scenes were a lot of fun up until they went on for too long, and it made me look forward to the third movie which is sure to be epic.
LeeC:
Yeah, the whole political situation with Laketown kind of irked me. Bard being some sort of revolutionary and the master being the goblin king of the humans. Just over the top. Really wish they kept it like in the book for that part.
My thoughts on Fili, Kili and Taureil. Potential major spoilers for those who have not read the book.
(click to show/hide)Honestly I really wish they kept to the book for this and not split the group. I see what they are trying to do. Thorin goes bananers over the Arkenstone (its his version of the one ring with Aragon, but going down a "what if" path if Aragon was seduced by the dark side). Fili is next in line when Thorin dies (Thorin mentioned it) but will probably die in the big battle of 5 armies. Kili next in line becomes king under the mountain. Kili and Tauriel mend relations between Dwarves and Elves (probably get married or some such). Having a kin-ship with Bard, who undoubtedly will become ruler of Dale after they rebuild it) will strengthen all 3 ties more so after the battle of 5 armies.
And yes Legolas was more or less for the fans. Calling Tauriel Jar Jar is a bit over the top to be honest. She is no where near as annoying or racist a caricature. I do agree that she is more or less a forced love triangle (not unlike in LotR arwen-aragorn-eowynn they teased at in two towers...which was dumb!). Her only role is to show a badass woman character for female audiences, and to be shoed into a love story. One of the actresses request was for there not to be a forced love story...only for them to put on in it after she signed up for the roll...
Blue Kitty:
--- Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 14 Jan 2014, 09:08 ---Tauriel is Peter Jackson's JarJar Binks
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--- Quote ---For the record, when I took this job, in 2011, I made one stipulation. That’s it. I just said… I swear to God, I said, ‘I will not do this film if you will not guarantee me one thing. You have to guarantee me there will be no love triangle.’ And there wasn’t. For the whole time I shot. For a year of shooting there was no love triangle...
...And then, I came back for reshoots in 2012 and they were like, ‘Well, we made a couple of alterations to some scenes and we added a couple more scenes,’” the actress continued. “And all of a sudden manifested a love triangle before my very eyes and the film was shot and I’m in and there’s no getting out and there was no escaping it.
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