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LeeC:
Oh I agree which is why the actress didnt want there to be some sort of stupid love triangle.  It really speaks to old school holliweird execs who think "strong female character" means being a bad ass but as soon as a hot guy walks into a picture she's, as you said, befuddled.  As I stated before, it just sounds like it was thrown together in a boardroom.  There is so much more they could have done.  Like make her an legolas the same person in this movie.  Make her hunt the orks because of honor or they killed her mom or something, maybe stop to help the dwarf real quick (even then, the one dwarf dude had it under control when he got the herb on his own), but on to her own character arc.  Legolas should have been a cameo only, like Haldir in fellowship of the rings.  Shows up to capture everyone and make a quick joke about Gimli and thats it.  As a wink to the audience.

94ssd:
Have you guys seen the honest trailer for The Hobbit.

I was just thinking about the confusion over the pronunciation of "Smaug" and how its featured in the video.

It should go without saying, but video has spoilers for An Unexpected Journey:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc32YdEWHzo

Aimless:
For my part, I kinda liked Tauriel and felt like she was among Jackson's better flawed decisions. I dunno 'bout strong female characters, I think it's a huge deal to give us a female character period in this sausage-fest (so to speak) of a story. And it's nice to see that being impulsive and harebrained is not the sole purview of male elvish teens

Lupercal:
In comparison to Arwen and Eowynn, Tauriel is pretty weak and/or pointless. I mean, it helps that Arwen had an existing love-thing going on with Aragon, but she helps for the good of the people of Middle Earth and to stay true to her father's wishes. Eowynn again wants to be there for her father and fight for the freedom of Men and of the realm that she is a citizen of.

Compartively, we know nothing about Tauriel except that she and Legolas sort of had a thing but not really. What does she fight for? We assume, sanctity and safety of the Woodland realm. However, it seems more like she fights for a dwarf she just met who happens to have been shot with a Morgul-cursed arrow. It's almost like Arwen saving Frodo again, but just a lot worse, because nothing actually changes if Kili dies. That's part of the suspension of disbelief and our ability as audiences to buy into these characters - why should we care if Tauriel is putting herself in danger, what happens if Kili dies? These are questions that have no immediate answer, but also neither of these events stops the end goal - getting the Arkenstone, reclaiming the title as King Under the Mountain, getting rid of Smaug. Really, as long as Bilbo and Thorin make it, who else needs to go?


--- Quote from: LeeC on 14 Jan 2014, 13:41 ---Oh I agree which is why the actress didnt want there to be some sort of stupid love triangle.  It really speaks to old school holliweird execs who think "strong female character" means being a bad ass but as soon as a hot guy walks into a picture she's, as you said, befuddled.

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Almost 50 years after Goldfinger and this shit still happens.

Barmymoo:
There were other female characters! The children of the lake man included two girls, and if I recall correctly one of them hit an orc over the head with a frying pan in a pretty badass manner.

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