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WCDT: 2609-2612 (New Year's Week 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Mlle Germain:
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 02 Jan 2014, 22:13 ---Actually, he needs someone to really want to be in a relationship and to do all the work to start it, like Dora and Faye had.
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In my opinion, he needs the opposite... With Dora and Marten, it was exactly this way and just led to Dora always wondering whether Marten was just with her because it's convenient. I think (as has been pointed out several times in the comic as well) that Marten is way too passive about his life in general, so just tumbling into a new relationship because the other person pushes him into it (ok, this sounds more negative and forceful than I mean it; of course Marten would need to go along willingly) would continue the pattern of him not taking the initiative and just being pushed along by life.
I'm not saying that he should reject anyone pursuing him just to try and be in control and I'm also not saying he should run around and try to conquer any girl he meets, but I do think it would be good for him to have to play an active part in forming his next relationship - whenever that happens. No harm in being without a relationship for a while, whatever Dora and Faye may say.
Edit: Loki was faster. Sure, Marten and Dora had a great relationship for a long time and it's good that Dora took the initiative when she did - I think Marten needed that at the time.
Edit: Right now I'm wondering if that post by Method I'm quoting was maybe supposed to be ironic? I'm sorry, I might be bad at recognising such things; at least when written.
themacnut:
The problem with Marten trying to be more proactive in forming a relationship is that he seems to be rather bad at it - see his early attempts to chat up Padma and his crash-and-burn with the Space Lieutenant. He'd need some practice both to chat up a girl properly and to recognize when she might welcome being chatted up - and part of the learning curve would involve him dealing with a fair amount of rejection along the way.
The question becomes whether he'd learn to accept rejection as part of the "game" so to speak, or whether he'd give up and go back to being passive. In other words, he'd need to develop a thick skin and I wonder whether he's able to.
freeman:
--- Quote from: mustang6172 on 02 Jan 2014, 20:19 ---Didn't he just break up with Padma 3 months ago in QC time?
Maybe it's time Jeph started drawing autumn backgrounds.
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Hey, how do you know how long has it been in QC-time?
Concerning time: I think around the time when Marten was with Padma, roughly a year of QC-time had passed, because they went a discussion something like this:
"I wish I had met you a year earlier."
"You probably would not have liked me a year ago, I was way whinier back then."
Old news?
jwhouk:
Fast Away The Old Year Passes... Biggest QC development in 2013?
Marigold and Dale's relationship developments! 14 (18.2%)
Marten and Claire's friendship development! 24 (31.2%) <=== Winner
Marten's Two Dads! 0 (0%)
Marten's Mom and her mid-life crisis 1 (1.3%)
Steve eating cereal! (If you forgot: strip 2407) 5 (6.5%)
Marten's 8-string guitar 2 (2.6%)
Forgotten characters! (The fairy, Mieville, Roger, Amir, Penelope, Cosette) 1 (1.3%)
Clinton reveals non-consensual snuggles! 0 (0%)
Give peas a chance! 1 (1.3%)
Angus' "Nightly Show" audition dreams (and Faye's issues over it) 3 (3.9%)
Deathmole (the "real" band and the Kickstarter) 3 (3.9%)
Friendship Initiation Paddlings! 1 (1.3%)
The SPIDER ZONE! 1 (1.3%)
Momo plays matchmaker! 2 (2.6%)
Dale's adventures with May the AI with 'tude 5 (6.5%)
Faye is PROMOTED! 1 (1.3%)
Dale is hired at COD! 1 (1.3%)
Claire gets a piercing! 1 (1.3%)
Claire tells Emily her "secret" 0 (0%)
Dora and Tai's relationship developments 3 (3.9%)
The Woodrow! 1 (1.3%)
Momo walks out on Marigold! 0 (0%)
New Format! 6 (7.8%)
Meme Time! (Waffles, Spathe Ham, etc.) 0 (0%)
As always: "You forgot..." 1 (1.3%)
Total Members Voted: 77
JRDelirio:
--- Quote from: Delator on 03 Jan 2014, 00:20 ---
--- Quote from: themacnut on 02 Jan 2014, 22:08 ---Marten really needs to stop listening to any relationship advice given by Dora and Faye - they blundered into the relationships they're in, and more due to the actions of their partners than anything they did.
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Quoted for Great Truth
Also, I normally like Dora, but her comment in the last panel made me want to punch her in the face.
The panel before indicated that maybe, just maybe, there was a realization that their efforts were counterproductive...and then BAM, next panel they've doubled down on stupid.
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They were confronted with a "do what I say, not what I do" scenario and their implied defense is that they never expected him to take it literally.
Thing is, to them it was "fun" to have blundered. And they could be justifiably thinking of a learn-as-you-go scenario: in Faye's case, for instance, the stumbling into the doomed relationship with Sven was A part of the still-ongoing process of figuring herself out. So they could have been thinking "yes, he needs to figure it out what he wants but he really should be dating while he does so, everyone goes through a series of shoot-down fails, doomed relationships, and casual hookups never meant to lead anywhere, before they get anywhere good" (now, if that had a "so why should you be any different?" appended or implied appended, it would be odious, but that's not in evidence here).
But instead we get Dora saying that taking her advice to "first figure out what you want, and then go for it" seriously "would be BORING" (with the inferred intonational emphasis of the capitals). Which means she could not quickly think of the reasonable explanation (Worse, someone could infer that she feels a "fun" relationship life should be filled with pittfalls).
BTW like Mlle Germain said, there's no harm in going on a hiatus from the relationship league. I meet too many people who seem to believe there's something utterly wrong with anyone who does, like somehow you'll freak out if you do without for a couple of months or a year.
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