I dunno, Jimmy, I'm always fussed about why people are so hung up on the death of the animal rather than their lives. A lot of animals that are killed for their fur only have lead decent lives, because the fur of a neglected and poorly kept animal is usually in a pretty bad shape, while animals that are killed for their meat often leads terrible lives because well, meat is meat and it's cheaper that way. Of course this is not always (or maybe not even usually, I'm no expert) the case. Like Dovey said, you can't argue that clubbing baby seals isn't horrible.