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hedgie:

--- Quote from: Tova on 20 Aug 2016, 22:13 ---Well, you know, when you are sick of healing idiots, you are sick of WoW.

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Quite true, and you raise some excellent points which I'll attempt to address without being so flippant (and not on a phone).  But in the 4 years I played on Blizz servers, and three I did on private servers, I noticed that arrogance similar to mine although common to healers in general was exaggerated almost to the point of parody by H Pallies and Disc Priests.  I knew several who refused to even go on anything less than a full-guild run of anything, and reached that point, myself, on several occasions out of frustration on anything but a milk run.

I'm rather amused that with progression raiding, where anyone who hadn't been doing it on the PTR was learning, raids lasted not much more than three hours because at least half of the healers and usually one of the tanks were intoxicated to the point of being useless.[1]


--- Quote ---The good healers are the ones who relish a challenging dungeon where the players are not at their best. When facing a new boss, this is the default, and it is where the healers can shine. Face it, once the strategy has been mastered by the group, the healers can usually more or less sit back and relax (and poke fun at the mage who pulled aggro again with invis on cooldown and is now a smudge on the floor).

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Oh, yeah.  New bosses were far more interesting.  Towards the end of an expansion, gear inflation for progression raiders got to the point where I'd tell a similarly geared pug tank to "just pull the fucking room already, I'm *bored*".  End-game LK was the worst for this, IME.


--- Quote ---<snip=agreed> When people got obsessed with numbers on the hps chart, that caused problems, because some roles didn't necessarily have high numbers, even though they kept the people alive they were supposed to.

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Yeah.  I *did* look at the charts after a wipe just to see if someone for their class/spec/role wasn't pulling their weight.  It was frustrating, though, to be booted from a pug on a disc priest for having "low hps".

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--- Quote ---As a side note, the tolerance levels for mistakes vary based on what class you're playing. I have made stupid mistakes as a healer and been told "nah, don't sweat it." I've made stupid mistakes as a tank and had mixed responses. And I've made stupid responses as a huntard, and had vitriol hurled at me that you would barely believe (if you weren't a veteran WoW player).

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Oh, I know.  Before my pally took over as my main, I temporarily ran my DK as one.  If anyone started joking about "deathnoobs", I'd do things like pet-pull or leave exploding bunnies around for pats in order to troll people.

Edit:  I also, tended to test other tolerance levels less for making mistakes (I tried my best not to make them and maintain a proper Ballmer Peak throughout) was to see what other sorts of things that I could get away with.  Like demanding that after a boss kill, I got to go outside and smoke a cigarette whilst everyone else dealt with trash, or well, seeing how drunk I could get before anyone noticed.  It's pretty crazy what one can get away with.

[1] I will never confirm nor deny causing a wipe due to being drunk to the point of falling out of a chair during a critical moment.

Tova:
I've never actually played WoW while drunk, but I have healed a tank who was pretty drunk on a couple of occasions. Luckily for us, he'd run the place so many times, most pulls went off without a hitch. But when something unexpected happened... let's just say that there were some comical wipes. Fun times.

TheEvilDog:
Turns out the invasions pre-event is a fantastic way of levelling up characters and make quite a lot of gold. Three invasions and I've taken a Shaman from level 22 to 39.

Neko_Ali:
I had an issue at first where I wasn't gaining the proper amount of experience for some reason. I would do several invasions and my EXP bar would barely move. At level 93, I was getting 80-2000 xp per kill, with full rest.  Since then though it's been taken care of. I got my belf paladin almost to 99, and my human mage is almost at 98 right now. Once they are Legion-ready I'll probably hit up one of my low characters and see how far I can get them in a week.

TheEvilDog:
Yeah, I've always considered making a Priest or a Mage, but I've never really like the idea of actually levelling up a cloth class through the expansions. But the invasions should be quite useful. But you might want to consider making some more use of the invasions, while Blizzard haven't said anything, I imagine the event should end a little bit after the launch.

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