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WCDT: 2636-2640 (Feb 10 - 14 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread

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techkid:

--- Quote from: Binks on 15 Feb 2014, 18:40 ---it would help if the "humor" was so sitcom-y.
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I would agree that the Dale/Marigold thing was a bit clichéd (we all knew it was going to happen, but the way it happened seemed like it was pushed forward, rather than a natural thing). Other than that... I'm cool with the comic.


--- Quote from: LJFelix on 16 Feb 2014, 01:19 ---You do notice that he tends to go back to music when he gets in this state though, so don't be surprised if we see more of Deathmole in the near future.
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Maybe (and hopefully) that is the direction that Jeph will take. I mean, because of Marten's influence (is the only word that comes to mind at the moment, but hopefully you know what I mean), Faye (fear of attachment, and more specifically, loss of attachment), Dora (control issues, insecurity), Hanners (extreme OCD, anxiety with human contact), and even Marbear (non-social, bordering on reclusive) have managed to pull themselves together through various means and make Normal Human Beings of themselves (more or less).

Marten has had relationships in the past, and has been happy during those times, but his character is still drifting. Maybe music is where he will find himself. Only time will tell, I guess.

Schmorgluck:

--- Quote from: rschill on 15 Feb 2014, 11:32 ---If we accept that attractiveness is purely in the eye of the beholder, then how are we supposed to make people feel uncomfortable with their bodies or their preferences?  If we accept that people are attracted in innumerable ways to innumerable attributes, then how can we create a hierarchy of attractiveness to be packaged and sold to insecure people?  How can we hold people to impossible and sometimes contradictory standards both in personal appearance and the appearance of their partner/s?
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You win so many internets with this that we'd have to borrow some from Akima to hand them to you.


--- Quote from: LJFelix on 16 Feb 2014, 01:19 ---Dude's got issues, sure. Hell, practically every character does.
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Tai doesn't have any issue. She's the best-adjusted character in the whole main cast. To find similarly well-adjusted characters we'd have to look into tertiary characters, namely Marten's dads.


Having just reread the comic, I found I have a problem with Marten's attitude. He says he doesn't want to talk about it, then he goes on to talk about it anyway. Without any incentive from Faye. It'd have been okay if Faye had pressed the issue, but she didn't.

Barmymoo:
I suspect Tai does have issues, they're just less problematic than those of her friends (or perhaps they're more resolved - remember that at one point she was struggling with the fact she wasn't completely comfortable with her polyamorous lifestyle; that's no longer a problem at present but she might still be conflicted over her place in that sort of culture).

My read on Marten is that he is still trying to live according to external ideas of what is good for him. That explains the "I don't want to talk about it... oh wait I do!" thing, because he thinks that he shouldn't need to talk over a one-night stand, but then the fact that he really does overwhelmes that. He feels he ought to be more ambitious, but the only thing he's actually ambitious about is his music, and he doesn't quite dare throw himself into that - or maybe he's aware that he's unlikely to achieve any material success doing so, and that is still an important factor for him because it's generally accepted to be important.

Eventually he'll grow more comfortable with himself and be more confident in saying "this is what makes me happy, I don't care if you think it's weird".

Schmorgluck:
I thought about adding that Tai used to have issue when she was exploring polyamory and ultimately finding out it wasn't her stuff, but I decided against it for the sake of concision.

As for the "I don't want to talk about it" thing, I always defaulted it as meaning "I'm uncomfortable talking about it but I'd like to talk about it if you're okay with it so please give me a sign that you're okay with hearing me talk about it." Especially between close friends.

In this case, Faye just saying "Oh?" and then Marten gushing would have felt less odd to me. But that may be just me.

Barmymoo:
That seems like ridiculous double-speak to me. If my friend says to me "I don't want to talk about it" then I respect that. If they say "you don't want to hear this", then I would gently probe to see if they wanted to talk.

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