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Mlle Germain:

--- Quote from: rschill on 19 Feb 2014, 08:31 ---"First Date" seems like a silly framework and set of standards [...].

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I agree with that. I find the idea of having to begin a relationship by formally going on dates (often with expectations attached to what has to happen at the Xth date) a little ridiculous. Looking at QC and other popular culture coming from the US, this seems to be much more a thing there than in Germany - although I will immediately admit that pop culture does of course not necessarily portray reality very accurately. I have never "dated" anyone by that definition. Sure, I sometimes go out to dinner with my boyfriend for celebrations or because we feel like it, but that was always after we were already together. I suppose we also went out to dinner or cinema or something when we were still just friends, but that weren't dates either, just stuff we did together as friends. Same thing with my first boyfriend.
But then, I was friends with both my boyfriends before being in a relationship with them (in one case a seven-year friendship, in the other about 6 months), so I guess it's not the same thing as when you're still getting to know each other while already in romantic pursuit. Maybe in that situation the formalised setting of dates makes it easier?

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Re: I think it is really everybody's personal decision when to first have sex, as long as both partners are happy with it. I could never sleep with somebody whom I don't know already and who I am not already really strongly emotionally attached to (or so I think now), but that's just me really.
This is absolutely a personal decision and nobody except those immediately involved have the right to judge it.
I do agree that it feels a little rushed in Mari's and Dales case - but that makes neither of them a "slut"!

WareWolf:

--- Quote from: Schmorgluck on 19 Feb 2014, 08:36 ---Having just met in a bar and clicked on is just as perfect a framework for having sex as any.

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It's how my wife and I met. Been together 25 years now.

Thrillho:

--- Quote from: Black Sword on 19 Feb 2014, 08:53 ---I am going to don my asbestos undies and go against the flow here.

Male or female, SEX ON THE FIRST DATE IS SLUTTY, NOT EMPOWERING. Please note that I am including BOTH genders. Penis or vagina, there's no solid justification.

Seriously, how is putting out for the first vagina/penis available empowering? Intimacy is a very important thing. For men and women, one's first sexual experience is considered a mark of becoming an adult. Even after the likely heartbreak, sex remains something special, something shared with someone important. Sex isn't just sex, it's emotions, drives, needs, desires, and more besides. I'd even go so far as to say that sex is a sacred experience for humans because of all the intangibles that go into it. Trust, attraction, creation, vulnerability, and more that I don't even have names for.

Marigold and Dale don't really know each other well. They've seen anime together that one time and Dale did that WoW harrassment but that's it. I haven't seen any meaningful conversations or interactions similar to those that Marten and Angus did with Dora and Faye. This whole thing just feels rushed, from a literary and realistic point of view.

caveat: I'm not saying save it for marriage and make sure it's your one true love, I'm saying that that biological imperative to stick it in to guarantee your genes being passed on is not the be-all, end-all to everything! There's more to it than just pleasure, dammit.

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Well, thanks for calling me, multiple ex girlfriends, my current girlfriend, my ex wife and many of my friends sluts. I'm done talking to you.

WareWolf:

--- Quote from: Madmartigan on 19 Feb 2014, 09:04 ---Am I seeing things or did Marigold's character get a redesign?

Or is it just the afterglow and a good fucking?  :-o

Because that's purty impressive.

@ Black Sword

Not sure...if serious or not.  :psyduck:

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I think her face looks slimmer without the big glasses. Her skin does seem to have cleared up a bit, though.

marsman57:
My current opinion of Marigold and Dale with regards to this is equal. I was more talking about Dale's perspective upon Marigold though rather than my perspective as a third party.

I largely agree with what Black Sword said about the whole issue.

I could say more about my feelings as a third party toward people who REGULARLY have sex on the "first date", but I don't desire a flame war where no one is going to change anyone else's opinion.

A pregnancy scare story arc could be interesting. I doubt Dale had protection on hand.

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