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So Stephen Colbert is going to be hosting The Late Show
Thrillho:
Valdis's issue with Colbert - and also Stewart, in both cases if I am remembering rightly - is that their material can frequently be quite transphobic. I've never personally seen any examples of it, but Valdis doesn't tend to miss the details on such things.
GarandMarine:
I've never seen it from Stewart, I have seen it from Colbert.
mustang6172:
I will miss Colbert's character. I'm hoping Comedy Central replaces him with Samantha Bee as a Nancy Grace parody.
bryntheskits:
Satire rarely fails to offend.
Though I would have liked Jon to host more than Stephen, I'm still OK with this.
Valdís:
--- Quote from: Gareth on 10 Apr 2014, 12:49 ---Valdis's issue with Colbert - and also Stewart, in both cases if I am remembering rightly - is that their material can frequently be quite transphobic. I've never personally seen any examples of it, but Valdis doesn't tend to miss the details on such things.
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Yes, they're unapologetically and loudly transphobic (with no element of "satire" so no one even fucking start that shit). For the record, it's not "just" blatant transphobia. I'm not fine with the "I said racist things! *Wink*" for privileged consumption either, really. Not intending to be racist and "they're just jokes!" are pretty piss-poor excuses when it comes down to it and it frequently veers into problematic. Also it's pretty gross just how much shit he gets away with by (other people) labelling it satire. Not in a million years would person of colour or a trans person be able to "joke" like that in the media about dominant groups (y'know, actual satire) without being roasted alive.
You haven't seen any examples of it, though, Gareth? Forgotten these posts + list I assembled at a moment's notice? [1][2]
Note: Old post, so it doesn't include the more recent examples.
--- Quote from: bryntheskits on 10 Apr 2014, 19:20 ---Satire rarely fails to offend.
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Satire is supposed to punch at power, not repeating bigotry at oppressed groups "but saying it with a dumb smile on your face".
He has 'contributed' to thoroughly warping what it even means to be satirical in the eyes of this generation.
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 10 Apr 2014, 13:01 ---I've never seen it from Stewart, I have seen it from Colbert.
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Ahem..
--- Quote ---Jon Stewart: But, as always in these debates, it’s left to the longest shot to say the craziest thing. (smugly) I give you Ohio Representative, Dennis Kucinich.
Clip of Dennis Kucinich: I’d nominate any gay to the Supreme Court, or lesbian or bisexual or transgendered person to the Supreme Court (as long as they were ready to uphold Roe v. Wade)
Jon Stewart: Yes, Yes. All rise for the honorable Justice Chick with Dick!
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(Jon mocking and dehumanizing a japanese trans woman for daring to protest an ID law that could potentially out and endanger her.)
Jon Stewart: But Cow and Chipmunk are not alone! They are joined by Transvestite, who worries that her true gender will be revealed by this new system.
Voiceover with fake translation: I am afraid that when I lumber out of my apartment in a tight dress with my scrotum taped back and my large hands covering my adams apple, somewhere, some bureaucrat will know I am a dude.
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Samantha Bee: Until the order is given to invade America, keep your eyes open for insurgents. The profile is simple; he’s a young white male …or black …or asian …possibly hispanic …or old …or female …or whatever this is.” *Shows image of trans woman*
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Well, it's there regardless. In fact I consider Jon Stewart to be far worse and more dehumanizing than Colbert, who is just endless tranny "jokes".
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