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Akima:

--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 24 Oct 2014, 23:22 ---Right now, slick action is what Hollywood sells. I'm happy if that slick action is Star Trek, because it keeps the door open for all kinds of sci-fi.
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The trouble is, Star Trek keeps the door open mostly for bad science-fiction; the sort that is actually about as scientific as Harry Potter, and doesn't even play as straight by the rules of its own universe as Jack Vance fantasy stories.

mustang6172:
Star Wars is about as scientific as Harry Potter.  Is Star Wars bad?

Yeah, I brought up Wars in the Trek thread!  :parrot:

Akima:

--- Quote from: mustang6172 on 13 Nov 2014, 21:29 ---Is Star Wars bad?
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Bad science-fiction, yes. For overall quality...  you tell me. Three out of six movies are simply terrible (the prequel trilogy), and Return of the Jedi is not that great. The first two movies released were pretty good, but every change forced on them since then has made them worse. So... overall... 2.5/6 at best? I have not read any of the novels or comics so I can't comment on them.

BenRG:

--- Quote from: mustang6172 on 13 Nov 2014, 21:29 ---Star Wars is about as scientific as Harry Potter.  Is Star Wars bad?
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The thing to remember about SW is that it isn't really a sci-fi at all. It's a fantasy story transplanted from a sword-and-sorcery world to a blaster-and-ubertech galaxy. Lucas himself once said that the story has nothing to do with sci-fi concepts and is all about "the damnation and redemption of Anakin Skywalker". Sci-fi is merely the stage upon which a nearly background-agnostic redemption arc story is played out.

Back to the topic, I've noticed that new fanfiction (and even good fanfiction) is still being posted for ST-TNG. I guess that shows the longevity of these shows because the average age of fanfiction writers is such that they probably weren't even alive when the show was aired for the first time!

Thrillho:

--- Quote from: Akima on 14 Nov 2014, 00:31 ---
--- Quote from: mustang6172 on 13 Nov 2014, 21:29 ---Is Star Wars bad?
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Bad science-fiction, yes.
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Why? Is it not just soft science fiction?

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