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BenRG:
That's an interesting question, Akima. I'm increasingly wondering if each separate 'incarnation' of Trek (the original series & movies 1-6, the four 'Next Generation-era' shows and movies 7-9, the Abramsverse and now Discovery) should be considered parallel continuities that are similar but not identical and do not necessarily have the same histories and even the same physical laws in the background.
I'm not opposed to this concept. I would even argue that there is some basis for this in the official materials. For example, in The Original Series, warp factors were the cube root of the vessel's velocity multiplier of the speed of light. In The Next Generation, it was altered to a logarithmic scale that reached infinity at Warp 10 and Enterprise added a new modifier where certain subspace conditions could allow a starship to travel far faster than their notional warp speed and that there were 'express routes' between some major systems like Sol and Q'on'os (something that some writers, most notably William Shatner's ghostwriter, have suggested is artificial and possibly the work of the Next Generation-era's ancient God-species/progenitors of all intelligent life, the Preservers... but I digress). Simon Pegg (who ended up effectively writing Star Trek - Beyond) has also explicitly stated that his understanding is that the Abramsverse is a parallel universe rather than a divergent timeline.
As I said, there's no reason why this couldn't work and I'm happy enough with it as a meta-explanation. However, I'd have been grateful if this were clearly stated somehow. Spock could have mentioned it in ST2009 and, if they are doing the interdimensional thing in Discovery, it wouldn't be hard to drop it in (maybe have one of the Discovery's scans of the Swirly Space Anomaly Thingy show the Enterprise under Captain Pike).
Torlek:
With the way Discovery looks so far I'm having trouble believing all their protestations that it's in the Prime universe and isn't 10 years before ST '09. At this point they're flatly contradicting the visual aesthetic established in 'The Cage' and slightly continued in 'Where No Man Has Gone Before'. Canon has been kinda squiggly since the TV and movie rights were split up in '05 though.
Kugai:
One of my own concerns is that Paramount/CBS essentially keeps 'Shitting On The Fanbase'. If there is any way for them to kill off 'The Golden Goose', it's to continue to poss off and alienate the fans the way they have in the recent few years.
Pilchard123:
Well, it looks like Discovery isn't dead in the water... yet. It's just turned up on Netflix to be released September 25th.
BenRG:
An interesting bit of information has emerged about both the J J Abrams reboot and Star Trek - Discovery.
It turns out that, when Viacom was split into Paramount Pictures and CBS Television by court order, CBS retained all rights to the Star Trek license and Paramount had only the right to make films and TV shows that had the name 'Star Trek'. Consequently, they would have needed to negotiate a separate license to use the trademarked imagery and art designs (such as the classic show uniforms, the starship designs and the set designs). Paramount have been unwilling to do so and CBS have apparently been somewhat unreasonable on the terms they are offering anyway. So, the reason why both the Abramsverse and Discovery look so different from the classic Trek, either subtly (as in the case of the Abramsverse uniforms) or overtly (the Discovery uniforms, starship aesthetic and Klingon make-up designs) is because they legally have to be different or Paramount & Bad Robot would be breaking trademark and copyright law.
It seems that the destiny of Star Trek is to die by being impaled by a pen on a copyright attorney's desk!
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