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BenRG:

--- Quote from: Akima on 25 Sep 2017, 02:23 ---It occurred to me today that the initialism for Star Trek: Discovery would be ST:D, which is a little unfortunate.
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FWIW, the official abbreviation is 'DIS', which follows the precedent of Star Trek - Voyager being 'VOY' and Star Trek - Enterprise being 'ENT'. That said 'DIS' has its' own unfortunate connotations, given how lots of fans seem to feel about the show.

Nothing confirmed and only passing on hearsay at the moment but there do seem to be serious rumblings about the show's future amongst the upper echelons at CBS. I suppose this might be because it was very much Les Moonves' personal pet project and may be considered tainted simply by association with him. Additionally, Netflix demanding a huge distribution license fee cut and not being willing to host the inter-season shorts at any price may also have some decision-makers' fingers edging towards the 'Cancel' button.

LeeC:
My new place comes with basic cable. I finally saw the Orville last night. It was really good and very star trekky, especially the ending.

Thrillho:
I like Discovery a lot but The Orville is more of a true successor to Trek's legacy than anything since Next Gen was last on television.

TheEvilDog:
I think the reason why the latter series never really worked was because the showrunners wanted to recapture the spark that worked for the Original series.

The Original Series worked because it tapped into the sense of anything was possible in the Cold War/Space Race. You had the crew of the Enterprise, the Captain and Chief Medical officers were American, the ship was helmed by Japanese-American and Soviet officers, the Executive Officer was half-human-half-alien, the communications officer was African and the Chief Engineer was Scottish. That was something that you didn't see a lot of. Bear in mind that for many people who watched and enjoyed the original series, World War Two was still fresh in the collective consciousness, along with the Civil Rights Movement and more understanding about the world and the universe and its then you realise TOS came along at just the right time.

Likewise, The Next Generation was lucky in the sense that Glosnast and Perestroika was prevalent in the late 80s, meaning they could look at the thawing of the relationship between the West and the Soviet bloc, through the improving relationship between the Federation and the Klingons. With Roddenberry taking a step back after the first season, the show was really allowed to do its own thing. And it worked for them, due to the talent of the cast. I think Dr. Pulaski's short tenure helped cement the realisation that they couldn't make TOS Mk. 2. And you know what? Good. You had a different cast and different characters with whom you could explore different ideas; such as Data contrasting Spock by wanting to be more human. Or stories of differing moral and ethical implications - such as when Worf was paralysed and wanted to commit ritual suicide. Do you think TOS would have tackled that?

Deep Space 9 worked because they went for a whole different tact. Rather than focusing on exploration, they went and looked at the Federation and how fragile it actually was. The conflict with the Borg and the later Dominion War took a heavy toll on the Federation and its allies. Yes, you had battles, you had small wars, but never a war on the scale that the Borg and Dominion brought. You saw the Federation having to examine its ideals and what it would have to stand for.

Voyager felt a lot like Lost In Space but with photon torpedoes and a bipolar captain (Kate Mulgrew's own interpretation of Janeway). The core idea of the show was sound. A Federation starship, far from home, lost in an alien and unknown part of the galaxy. It could have opened up whole new stories, different kind of ideas and again, an examination of what they thought the Federation was. Unfortunately, the executives and the showrunners couldn't decide what to do and the latter half of the series felt like the Jeri Ryan Show, With Special Guests.

Enterprise had the same problem as Voyager, the writers and showrunners not having a clue of what to do. We could have seen Starfleet's first contacts with some of the classic Star Trek races. Instead we got 2 and a half seasons of "Vulcans are Jerks, but they're actually Romulans" and the Xindi season. I wasn't against the Xindi arc, but it dragged on. And then we get a finale focusing on Troi and Riker, which felt like a cheap shot.

Then there's Discovery, which to be fair, I haven't seen, but from what I gather, its too dark and too grim to be a Star Trek.

LeeC:

--- Quote from: Castlerook on 29 Jan 2019, 16:03 ---
Enterprise had the same problem as Voyager, the writers and showrunners not having a clue of what to do. We could have seen Starfleet's first contacts with some of the classic Star Trek races. Instead we got 2 and a half seasons of "Vulcans are Jerks, but they're actually Romulans" and the Xindi season. I wasn't against the Xindi arc, but it dragged on. And then we get a finale focusing on Troi and Riker, which felt like a cheap shot.


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The characters were interesting but I felt like Scott Backula was a terrible casting choice. I need to revisit the series but you hit the nail on the head.  They had so much potential but I feel like it was squandered.

Also:
(click to show/hide)Killing off Trip in the final episode made no sense and felt cheap and lazy. Like it was just tacked on.

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