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Tova:
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--- Quote from: Castlerook on 23 Jul 2020, 03:16 ---Funnily enough, I just watched a rather scathing discussion about the Lower Decks, talking about how CBS has finally lost sight about what Star Trek was about.
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Well I can see where thats coming from. Star Trek is mostly a serious look into exploration, philosophy, and a way to self examine our own society/culture. Lower Decks may dabble in it, but it seems more like a comedy show than the discussions and lessons from shows past. I think any fan may feel threatened/not thrilled about Lower Deck's tropey parody of that universe.
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Ah, okay.
I just googled a bit and saw a quote commenting they wanted to "laugh with Star Trek" rather than at it.
I can imagine that not going down well with people who take Star Trek very seriously.
Thrillho:
--- Quote from: LeeC on 23 Jul 2020, 15:53 ---I think its more of a "The Orville is a comedy version of Star Trek and its doing great!" added with "Scifi comedy cartoons are trending, lets use a known IP."
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 23 Jul 2020, 03:16 ---Funnily enough, I just watched a rather scathing discussion about the Lower Decks, talking about how CBS has finally lost sight about what Star Trek was about.
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Well I can see where thats coming from. Star Trek is mostly a serious look into exploration, philosophy, and a way to self examine our own society/culture. Lower Decks may dabble in it, but it seems more like a comedy show than the discussions and lessons from shows past. I think any fan may feel threatened/not thrilled about Lower Deck's tropey parody of that universe.
Hopefully its not the low brow targeted at Millennial humor, Rick and Morty/final space knock off its being presented. The Orville was advertised as "Family Guy in space!" but when you watch the show its a star trek show with comedy in it rather than a comedy show parodying star trek. Admittedly I've only seen most of season 2 of the Orville but it really carried the spirit of TNG.
Spoiler for a couple of episodes:
(click to show/hide) There was one episode that had practically no jokes and was a psychological horror movie about vengeful parents trying to murder a crewman's parents after the crewman was discharged from the military for having a medical condition restricting their movement. There was also a first contact episode where the crew of the Orville meet a planet of people through the planet's own SETI like program. The planet was heavy into astrology and anyone born under a specific sign was regulated to a concentration camp for the rest of their lives.
I'm willing to give it a try and see it if I can.
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I think The Orville feels more in the spirit of Star Trek than the vast majority of the Star Trek properties that have been made since Voyager and DS:9 went off the air.
Tova:
I kind of like the idea of taking a concept initially explored in a TNG episode and running with the idea of focusing on the people below the officers to the extent of making the tone of the entire series much less highfalutin. Obviously it helps that this kind of genre is trending, but it is possible to see a rationale behind it.
Torlek:
--- Quote from: Thrillho on 24 Jul 2020, 14:28 ---I think The Orville feels more in the spirit of Star Trek than the vast majority of the Star Trek properties that have been made since Voyager and DS:9 went off the air.
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This is pretty much what I feel. In terms of feel/atmosphere, The Orville is basically a long-lost, more comedy-centric late 90s Star Trek show with different set dressing (they even use the same orchestral cues). Everyone expected Family Guy in space, but they didn't realize that MacFarlane is apparently a big Trek nerd. So, instead, we get a love letter to the TNG-VOY era filtered through his sensibilities.
Maybe the trailers are lying, but I don't get that notion from Lower Decks. Everything about it suggests that it's The Adventures of the USS Rick-and-Morty.
Tova:
--- Quote from: Torlek on 24 Jul 2020, 19:17 ---Maybe the trailers are lying ...
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Trailers can in fact be misleading. Famously.
If you don't already do so, then I'd suggest taking all trailers with a healthy pinch of salt. They are not even made by the same people making the thing they are advertising these days.
I mean, it's no coincidence that many people here are getting the vibe that the series creators are just going with what's trending. That's what trailer makers do.
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