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"Don't be Evil"? Google's YouTube screws over indie artists

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Pilchard123:
Apparently now it's going to every video.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/8/8371131/youtube-paid-subscription-offline-video

YourBuddyBill:
I don't know why we're surprised, really. It was inevitable that they would realize they could more or less do whatever the fuck they wanted to everyone and they'd still get all the business cause nobody can be assed to go elsewhere unless it turns into an absolute shithole.

Thrillho:
It's early and I'm pre-coffee, so help me out here - does that basically say that all videos are going to be private unless you sign up to be a part of the subscription service?

bhtooefr:
Except there's no "I Agree" button, there's no signing up, it just happens for partners, and nothing happens for regular YouTube users I believe. So, I think the article's wrong.

Basically, if you're running ads right now, on June 15, you'll automatically be migrated to the new terms (which is basically, you get 55% of the ad revenue on your videos, and 55% of your videos' share (calculated on clicks and runtime) of all subscription fees). If you don't want to agree to them, you can notify YouTube that you want to end the agreement, and your videos will no longer be monetized. (Or you can make your monetized videos private yourself, or you can demonetize them individually.)

If you're not running ads, I believe nothing happens (except maybe YouTube will start running ads? This bit is unclear). You weren't getting any money anyway, and these terms updates are regarding how people who have monetized their videos get paid.

And, the only reference to private videos in regards to this is in the FAQ:


--- Quote ---What happens if I do not want to participate in new paid offerings?

If you choose not to participate in our new paid offerings, you can change your video settings to private to keep videos hosted on YouTube. Though you can always choose whether to host any or all of your videos on YouTube, we strongly believe that any fan who's willing to pay for a feature like an ads-free experience on YouTube deserves to access the exact same content that exists on the ad-supported site. A paid YouTube offering will give fans a compelling new way to enjoy their favorite content uninterrupted while offering partners a new way to earn revenue from their videos, benefits we feel are overwhelmingly positive for everyone.
--- End quote ---

So, basically, the way this is reading is that if you don't want a video to be available without ads (but you still get revenue if it's monetized, because it's paid), you make it private. I'm trying to figure out the opposition to this, and other than possible screwiness in the revenue model, I'm not seeing it.

The biggest issue I can see is that now YouTube will most likely aggressively work around or refuse to work with ad blockers running, and I do use one with YouTube after the 2012 US presidential election campaigns. (I live in a swing state, so I was subjected to ALL of the ads.)

Thrillho:
This has severe ramifications for me even as a fan.

I watch Game Grumps literally every day of my life, and I know that show is how Danny and Arin make a living. They can't run it without ads, because they'd lose all their income, but if they go behind a paywall they'd probably lose a shit-ton of fans.

I know they could always keep doing it as well as a real job, but the point is... they shouldn't have to do that. They've been successful on their own terms and are living their dream, and they will lose it, or we as fans will lose them, entirely because YouTube are being assholes.

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