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WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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NilsO:

--- Quote from: themacnut on 08 Jul 2014, 02:13 ---This could be very bad - for Faye's liver.

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Indeed. Angus will not be pleased if Faye hits the bottle again; possibly leading directly to a breakup. Faye will then drink even more, but may eventually be rescued by Sven. In that case, is Sven an A-hole for causing this to happen? Or is he the white prince that rescues her, and they will live happily ever after?

I really hope Faye's alcoholism will not resurface, but I am afraid this will happen. However, I hope her friends (Marten and Hannelore in particular) will be able to help and support her.

EDIT: I found the Chernobylore strip, where Hanners went critical to help Faye. I guess we need more of those moments.

Mlle Germain:
I don't know why people are so upset about Sven being honest about his feelings and calling him insensitive - like what he did was a bad thing.
I don't think it is, as long as he doesn't do it to - as someone earlier accurately put it - make Faye responsible for his feelings and put pressure on her to do something about it.
Sure, it comes at a very unfortunate time for Faye, but Sven could not know that. If Faye and Angus were a happy couple right now, would you still say that it's bad and inconsiderate? At such a time, Faye might easily tell him sorry, nice that he told her, but she's over it, and everyone (in the forum I mean) would laugh about it and be sympathetic with Sven.
(Did people think it insensitive when Elliot did it? I don't think so, and that was a similar situation. I think if Sven's intent is the same as Elliot's - namely, getting it off his chest, but not expecting anything in return - it's really perfectly fine.)

I actually like Sven this way. This is one of the few times we've actually seen him show real feelings in the comic! (And probably the first time he is so vulnerable emotionally.) Of course being unhappily in love sucks (there is no way I can see this end with Faye and Sven getting together anytime soon - and I think Sven doesn't expect that either), but this whole episode has evidently already made him think a lot about himself and will probably lead to him being happier in the long run.

Barmymoo:
On the one hand I agree that it's good that Sven is expressing emotions and genuinely feeling something other than lust. However, I also think it's unfair of him to place that on Faye. What is he hoping to achieve? He knows that Faye is with Angus. Will telling her how he feels actually help him? I feel like the only reason you'd share that with someone is in the hope that they will feel the same and start a relationship with you.

themacnut:

--- Quote from: NilsO on 08 Jul 2014, 03:06 ---
--- Quote from: themacnut on 08 Jul 2014, 02:13 ---This could be very bad - for Faye's liver.

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Indeed. Angus will not be pleased if Faye hits the bottle again; possibly leading directly to a breakup. Faye will then drink even more, but may eventually be rescued by Sven.

EDIT: I found the Chernobylore strip, where Hanners went critical to help Faye. I guess we need more of those moments.

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Yep, the strip you linked is another reminder that Faye tends to turn to strong cheap liquor in times of stress, and this situation definitely qualifies. And you're right, Angus will not be happy in that case, and the resulting fight may end their relationship. However let's be clear, the resulting breakup won't have been Sven's fault then, it will have been Faye's fault for using a bad coping mechanism. Hard drinkers can be very difficult for light or non-drinkers to live with, after all.

Mlle Germain:

--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 08 Jul 2014, 03:26 ---On the one hand I agree that it's good that Sven is expressing emotions and genuinely feeling something other than lust. However, I also think it's unfair of him to place that on Faye. What is he hoping to achieve? He knows that Faye is with Angus. Will telling her how he feels actually help him? I feel like the only reason you'd share that with someone is in the hope that they will feel the same and start a relationship with you.

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Hmm, I don't know. Probably most of the time that's the case, yes. But you could also just do it to get it off your chest, right? Like Elliot did. I think a lot of people do feel better if they just say it out loud; even if they are rejected. As I said, it turns bad precisely when the person confessing their feelings expects the other person to do something about it; then it pressures the other person and makes them feel bad. We'll see if that's what Sven does or not (I could imagine it happening; and then you would be right: He would be acting selfishly again).
I do think that it is always slightly awkward having someone tell you they're in love with you when you aren't. But nobody should have to hide their feelings because of that as long as they understand that telling someone you are in love with them does absolutely not make the other person responsible for your feelings and that they're likely to get a rejection and have to live with it.

Again: In this situation it is deeply uncomfortable for Faye, because the timing is so unfortunate. But this is not Sven's fault. He does not know anything about what is going on with Angus.

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