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WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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Mlle Germain:
I like the love confession much better than the STD storyline. I am glad it's going that way!

Aziraphale:

--- Quote from: Mlle Germain on 07 Jul 2014, 13:38 ---
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 07 Jul 2014, 12:13 ---Faye has also become assistant manager at Coffee of Doom too. She's set down roots in town, and is uncomfortable with change. If Angus gets this job, he'll have to move to The City. Since it seems that Faye has no desire or intention to move, and Angus' career is requiring him to move then their future is looking pretty dim, really. Notwithstanding the 'we'll try things long distance'. Which in this case seems code for 'neither of us wants to give our our careers or break up, so we're going to lip-service to staying together even though we both know this will probably be the end.' I would say that pretty much classifies as Faye and Angus wanting different things.

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Huh, yeah, if you put it like this it seems pretty obvious. I think you're right. Faye probably doesn't see any way that they will be able to live close to each other again if both of them follow on their chosen path. And long-distance is fine if you know it's for a limited time, but not good if there's no perspective for it to end.

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One of them (Angus) has a chosen path. Faye, like Marten, has something more akin to a pothole. A pothole in which she's comfortable, but a pothole nonetheless.

NilsO:

--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 07 Jul 2014, 13:30 ---TOTALLY CALLED IT.

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Yes. But is it cool to confess his love to someone who is in a relationship? Instead, he could have said something like:

--- Quote ---I wish things had been different. I want you to know that I regret deeply what happened. I miss you very much.

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jwhouk:
Sorry, this is the first thing that popped into my brain...
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Smallest:

--- Quote from: quix0te on 07 Jul 2014, 11:17 ---"What Angus wants and what I want don't match up"
Wait.  The last I'd heard, Faye was kind of rudderless.  She has started making metal sculptures.  So other than leaving her friends behind, which happens to many people who try to pursue careers, where do they not align?

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Not particularly being driven in a direction doesn't mean she wants to be pulled in just any direction, though. Like, if I went out for dinner I might not know what I want, but I wouldn't want to be given just anything off the menu.


--- Quote from: Mlle Germain on 07 Jul 2014, 02:26 ---
--- Quote from: KOK on 06 Jul 2014, 21:47 ---
--- Quote from: Mlle Germain on 06 Jul 2014, 14:48 ---
I have to say that I have a bad feeling for Faye and Angus. (Has this been discussed much in last week's thread? I didn't read it as thoroughly as most other weeks.)
What do you think Faye means by "What Angus wants and what I want don't match up"? If it's not the long-distance thing, I really can't see what exactly she's talking about. Just that Angus wants to get a different job?

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Faye wants thing to stay the same.

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Yeah sure, but with her reaction, I was thinking that there must be something else. I wouldn't question a well-working relationship that way (and withhold my fears from my partner) because of such a change - but then, I am of course not Faye and maybe the Angus-Faye relationship is not as well-working anyways? Maybe Faye and Angus aren't that close after all? We don't see that much of any close, emotional interaction between them in-comic.
Or maybe I am reading way more into Faye's reaction than there is. I just hope that she gets through this episode in the way that will ultimately make her the happiest (be it by sticking with Angus and learning to cope with the change in their relationship or by deciding that she does not want to stay in that relationship any longer - right now, I am really not sure which one it will be).

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Well, they sort of discussed it before. Not just 'I want things to be the same' on Faye's front, but Angus has (some implied some canon) goals and dreams of living in the city, fancy work, busyrushrush city life, as opposed to Faye, who just wants to be comfortable, isn't ambitious (she has more 'purpose' than Marten, but she's not going for famous/rich/etc) working with/around her friends, and could pursue her art without uprooting that whole thing, if that is her dream.

Those incompatibilities aren't great for the long term, moving in together eventually, or even just for getting along, especially once they get logn distance and as individuals are living in the type of life they planned, but not together. That makes for different experiences, which of course are good, but on the other hand can also mean that as individuals they may develop even farther apart from each other.

...or the distance could make them love and appreciate each other more and a reasonable middle will be found. I'm not saying it will or has to turn stale, just that there's plenty of reasoning for Faye to think that.


--- Quote from: snubnose on 07 Jul 2014, 05:13 ---- Very likely Faye has no substantial feelings for Sven left. She feels bad about the breakup, sure, but thats no surprise, considering how it happened. Again, the breakup was Svens fault, not Fayes fault.

- Ultimately its not Fayes responsibility how Sven feels.
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On these particular points-
- I don't know. Sven was a good friend/counsellor to her before/during the period they were banging. They weren't extremely close for long, but he gave her a place to crash when she fought with the others, talked to her about Dora and Marten, and was generally a friend. As well as that, it's implied later that they were together off screen sometimes (mentioned in the scene about flipping couch cushions), so there's even more time they could have been getting close with each other. They always were friends with benefits, not just banging. If he hadn't banged the other girl, he probably would still be close with Faye and a main part of the cast even if they stopped banging. (I can't remember what words are good on this forum, so 'banging' it is). Even if they're not romantic ways, she did/does? at least like him. It might not mean anything anymore, you could be totally right, I just wanted to point out that there is a basis for her.

- Yes. I hope Faye realizes that tomorrowcomic.

Personally, I always liked the idea of Faye/Sven at least having gone a bit longer (maybe just because of the exposition it would have provided for both of them, since we don't usually see Sven and it's a different situation than Faye was used to), so I'd be happy with this going somewhere.

I think it's more likely that Faye's going to turn Sven down (that detail's pretty much 100% sure, to me), eventually but not immediately end up breaking up with Angus nonetheless, and probably not end up with Sven. But if she does, it will be a while from now, not a sudden switcheroo from Angus.

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