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WCDT: 2776-2780 (25-29 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
plusorminus:
--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 26 Aug 2014, 00:11 ---How does Sven confessing he loves Faye affect Dora?
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Faye right now is in love with a guy who may get an offer he cannot refuse and leave her, and Faye is still working through her abandonment issues. Sven is aware of Faye's issues. At first I thought maybe he wasn't and then I realized he was because of the advice he gave Dora in going after Marten. Faye has admitted to Dora being unsure and scared about what may happen with her and Angus. And now a guy that she probably had been starting to fall for before he had drunken, mediocre sex with a woman he never saw again, and who devastated Faye with that action, is popping up at this crucial time and telling her he is in love with her and wants to be with her.
Faye is one of her key employees, and arguably the person beside Dora who made CoD into the success it is. She's in an emotional rough spot and confided in Dora about that. She is then summarily raked over the emotional coals by Dora's brother, who should know better, after the shit he put her through. I will point out again that at the outset of the Angus-might-move arc, Dora had to gently tell Faye that her work was slipping and that precipitated the talk about Angus. Dora has every reason to be concerned that because of her dickhead brother, her friend and valuable employee might go into a tailspin. And yes, the latter would affect Dora, as Faye's boss.
themacnut:
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 26 Aug 2014, 00:15 ---
--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 26 Aug 2014, 00:11 ---How does Sven confessing he loves Faye affect Dora?
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Directly? Not at all. One could argue it is just another example of the type of behavior from him she doesn't want in her life anymore.
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The irony is, cutting Sven out of her life wouldn't really help in this regard. It would not stop Sven from say, chasing after Faye again if he so chose, or even coming to the shop and flirting with any of the other barristas. He just wouldn't be speaking to his sister and vice versa. She could always tell him to leave her shop (business owners do have the right to order someone off their premises) but again, that doesn't stop Sven from flirting with any of the girls after hours.
Basically, Sven could go right on flirting with Dora's friends while ignoring Dora completely, since they're Not Speaking.
Chelicerate:
There sure is a whole lot of projection coming from one side of this argument. Women are not obligated to date men that they do not want to date. It doesn't matter how 'crushed' a person would be by the ending of the relationship- The relationship is a two way street.
You can feel bad for the hurt party in a breakup (which is, more often than not, actually both parties) but to vilify the person committing the break, as a third party observer, says more about you than it does about that person.
Dora's never cheated on anybody, so far as we know. She's not perfect, but she's often tried to make amends after outbursts and seems to care about her friends. Sven, on the other hand...
I genuinely don't know where you'd all read that he was some socially savvy great guy. Nearly every time we'd encountered him, it was either a situation he couldn't fuck up without being cartoonishly horrible, or we've been dealing with the backlash of some relationship of his gone awry. The only time he seemed like a decent guy, to me, was on his date with hanners. He's not a horrible person, no, but he's not a GOOD person. Definitely the kind of person I would avoid having in my life, at least.
Jeeze, it's almost like we're reading a comic about dysfunctional adults or something.
Also: Threats of physical violence amongst friends do not necessitate a willingness to actually use that violence. Hell, they don't even seem to even THREATEN it much anymore. Why is everyone jumping to those conclusions?
Nyithra:
After reading through more discussion, I can see how this might affect Dora more in certain ways, perhaps not directly, but seeing a friend in stressful situations can also be stressful for oneself in an empathetic sort of way, and witnessing (however indirectly) somebody being an asshole and making that situation MORE stressful is just plain anger inducing. This still seems like a heat of the moment thing though. It seems like she wants to 'punish' Sven for his actions, but she doesn't want to tell him that she's punishing him. It's not very logical from an objective standpoint, but under a lot of anger and stress, cutting off the SOURCE of that anger and stress might seem logical in that moment.
sitnspin:
I don't see it as an attempt to punish Sven, I see it as an attempt to remove an emotionally destructive influence from her life. It is an understandable choice, but one she'd be wise to discuss with her therapist first
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