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WCDT: 2776-2780 (25-29 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Jazzmaster:
--- Quote from: bhtooefr on 24 Aug 2014, 19:16 ---How happy she is about it feels like a façade that she's putting up, even to herself, though, so she doesn't break down.
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Yeah, pretty much. It's not much unlike when people who share those image macros on social media that say things like "look at all the fucks I give!". You kind of just know they're trying to convince themselves of the fact.
That said, I can understand WHY you would exaggerate a feeling or "fake it till you make it", especially if the alternative is continuing to feel shitty and un-empowered.
--- Quote ---Basically, it's a decent action, but how she's going about it is incredibly unhealthy.
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Unhealthy because she's basically lying to herself, or because she might be taking it too far?
--- Quote from: creatureshock on 24 Aug 2014, 19:23 ---OK, registered just to post this: The most toxic person in the comic is calling someone else toxic? Seriously?
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Woah, shots fired. Care to elaborate on your thoughts?
Method of Madness:
I'm not sure I can disagree outright, but I would also like to hear more.
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: bhtooefr on 24 Aug 2014, 19:16 ---How happy she is about it feels like a façade that she's putting up, even to herself, though, so she doesn't break down.
Basically, it's a decent action, but how she's going about it is incredibly unhealthy.
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Oh yeah, we're just waiting for the other boot to drop now, because while it is healthy to cut out toxic people from your life, it seems like Dora is about to do it in the worst possible way. I mean, from the looks of it, she hasn't spoken to Sven about this and from what I can see, Dora hasn't spoken to her parents about her therapy, let alone her problems with Sven.
Dora might think she's digging herself out of a hole, but my guess is, she's just making it deeper.
--- Quote from: creatureshock on 24 Aug 2014, 19:23 ---OK, registered just to post this: The most toxic person in the comic is calling someone else toxic? Seriously?
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I wouldn't call Dora toxic, she's someone who has not had the easiest path in life and not possessing the best idea of how her actions have consequences and tends to jump before she looks. She's had to deal with a lot of rejection in her life and so it's coloured her view of the world.
Sven, on the other hand, is a guy who has always breezed through life, been the "perfect" older sibling to Dora (perfect in the sense that he could do no wrong), writes crap country-music songs but still makes money off them and felt that Faye should have reciprocated when he announced that he loved her, despite the fact that his own actions caused the dissolution of his relationship with Faye and, more importantly, she is now in a relationship with another person. This is probably the first time he's been rejected and he can't actually deal with it. Add onto that his encounters with the other members of the cast (save for Hanners), the guy is a manipulator, a very toxic kind of person.
bhtooefr:
--- Quote from: Jazzmaster on 24 Aug 2014, 19:25 ---Unhealthy because she's basically lying to herself, or because she might be taking it too far?
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Yes.
Coffee_Kaioken:
--- Quote from: Chelicerate on 24 Aug 2014, 19:05 ---His latest behaviour is pretty indicative of "abusive jackass" tho. Others were going 'This is out of character for sven!' but now that it's there, it re-contextualizes a LOT of his previous behavior.
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That's not how I look at it, personally - I just let it stop at "out of character". I mean the guy was talking about reading the situation correctly when taking Hannelore on a "date" and at points in the comic before dating Faye he didn't seem that socially unskilled. It's more like uglier parts of his character have come out ever since some time passed after things with Faye fall out. I don't acknowledge this as part of who Sven normally is, I just see it as him having some kind of nervous breakdown. There WERE moments before Sven and Faye came together that Sven showed some forms of empathy, like giving Dora advice on how to go about pursuing Marten or explaining her history of issues to Marten after their fight over what happened between him and Faye on the couch.
I'm not saying the guy isn't an asshole at times, he definitely has been. But he's also been there for Dora from time to time and I think a complete cutoff in one of his not-too-bright moments is going to come back to hurt her as much as it would hurt Sven for the first moments. Now, a complete bitch-out, I would be 100% in support of.
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