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WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
TheEvilDog:
Aaaand now the thread has gotten to the point where it was an interesting and amusing discussion to whaling on a dead horse.
Bravo. :facepalm:
Alphawolf55:
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--- Quote from: FireREGS on 26 Sep 2014, 13:15 ---Being transexual has nothing to do with her character, AND THAT's what i dont like.
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I would argue that that's EXACTLY how it should be - being trans is just one small aspect of who she (and other transgendered people) is as a person. If you don't like the rest of who she is, so be it, but that's pretty much a separate issue.
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I agree for the most part the only part I find weird is how she outright outs herself. Like it felt inorganic, like it was just an initial statement "Hey kids look we have diversity!" without doing anything with that diversity. It'd be like if instead of Tai talking about girlfriends and hooking up with girls in an organic sense she'd be like "Yeah I like girls" but then never date girls, express interest in girls. Like I felt like a more organic way of showing Clare was trans without making it about trans-issues could've been done like offhand comments about transition or side conversations.
Valdís:
--- Quote from: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 13:37 ---I agree for the most part the only part I find weird is how she outright outs herself. Like it felt inorganic, like it was just an initial statement "Hey kids look we have diversity!" without doing anything with that diversity. It'd be like if instead of Tai talking about girlfriends and hooking up with girls in an organic sense she'd be like "Yeah I like girls" but then never date girls, express interest in girls. Like I felt like a more organic way of showing Clare was trans without making it about trans-issues could've been done like offhand comments about transition or side conversations.
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It needs to be blatant because of the Null Hypothecis. Emphasis on the cis. Anyone not explicitly stated otherwise people will consider cis, due to cisnormativity. Just as how people presume characters in books are white for no reason, or project heterosexuality onto characters even when none is mentioned (and trying to argue characters with very, very blatant hints otherwise still aren't anything but hetero).
Oh, and yeah, don't presume avoiding transness is a goal for everyone. I wear a pendant by our very own CaspianSeaMonster, for instance. For many of us it's important to not give into societal pressures to have it as a shameful secret. Y'know.. Pride. Not going around discussing medical stuff with random people, which is generally an uncomfortable demand from cis people rather than something I bring up myself, but, like, discussing stuff with friends who Get It.
But Claire probably doesn't/didn't really have anyone like that on the main cast of the comic, so she's mostly avoiding it as a topic, but not wanting to hide it from her closest friends. In that sense just an outright statement without random convos makes sense.
HeavyP:
This is why I left social media entirely. This thread started off in the usual fashion, hit a warm and fuzzy crescendo with a bit of the usual bickering about friends/more-than-friends and hopes for attachments to other characters (all of which is both entertaining and enjoyable conversation)....and then it all turned to ashes in my mouth with people screaming at each other, posting hyperbole and "facts", taking potshots (some deserved, some not), and has generally become the equivalent of someone shitting in the hot tub.
I may just be a lurker, but this reminds me of why I lurk instead of getting too attached. I'm going back to just enjoying the comic every morning and avoiding the forums entirely. May all of you who are intelligent and caring community members continue to do so, and may the rest be devoured by demon bandicoots.
Toe:
--- Quote from: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 13:37 ---Like it felt inorganic, like it was just an initial statement "Hey kids look we have diversity!" without doing anything with that diversity.
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Well, look at it this way: Jeph has done FAR more with the token transgendered girl than he did with the token black girl. :mrgreen:
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