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WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Thedrd0nna:
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--- Quote from: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 13:04 ---Counter-point: Fuck entirely off with your transmisogyny.
I will, in fact, state that we are every bit as much women as anyone else and that is not up for "debate". I am not looking to "debate" my right to exist with you; I am telling you what is cissexist and what has underlying transmisogyny.
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Gender and trans/cis/anywhere-in-between notwithstanding, your reactions to people making good-faith attempts to have a conversation are not productive.
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Argh, I wrote a long post about this and then my phone deleted it! Suffice to say, trans people hear a lot of justifications from cis people about why, even though they're super supportive, we shouldn't be able to expect to date or compete in sports or use public restrooms or whatever, and if some of us don't take it easy when we hear another iteration of that same justification, it's pretty well justified.
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But I'm not arguing that it's RIGHT for me or anyone to feel that way. I'm confessing that it's the case and (perhaps too presumptively) speaking for other privileged straight cis-guys, and trying to explain how it's possible both to be supportive and to experience anxiety - born of ignorance, I admit - with regard to hooking up. And that it's simply not possible for a lot of us to just erase the "Trans" part from trans woman.
Is there truly not a big difference between "You shouldn't expect to date" and "Look, this is something I'd have to come to terms with and would, like it or not, think about in a different way"?
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There is a big difference-I concede that. I think part of it is that usually when people say things like "it's something society/men/whatever will have to get used to", most of the time they're using that to justify the status quo until some vague future point. It's generally not put the way you have done, where it's clear that you're talking about a change that men have to make.
In the context of the comic, though, I think People are using their own hang ups to try to predict the behavior or Marten, or justify why he shouldn't/couldn't be going in the direction that he is very clearly going. That, more than anything, is what rankles me: Claire is cute as the dickens, and I want this to work for her, dangit!
Masterpiece:
Only thing I can say:
GODDAMN I CAN'T WAIT FOR MONDAYS COMIC.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: HiFranc on 26 Sep 2014, 14:28 ---I can't remember where it was, or whether Jeph was was just trolling us but I remember that someone once linked to a comment by the writer (I think it was Formspring but it could have been Tumblr) where he said that Marten would never be lucky in love.
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Yes, he said that; yes, it was in a generally facetious context; yes, it was a long time ago and he's allowed to change his mind.
HiFranc:
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--- Quote from: HiFranc on 26 Sep 2014, 14:28 ---I can't remember where it was, or whether Jeph was was just trolling us but I remember that someone once linked to a comment by the writer (I think it was Formspring but it could have been Tumblr) where he said that Marten would never be lucky in love.
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Yes, he said that; yes, it was in a generally facetious context; yes, it was a long time ago and he's allowed to change his mind.
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Sorry, I wasn't saying that he's not allowed to change his mind but, as one of those who squeeed when they first saw this page, I'm just reminding everyone (including myself) that it's too soon to get our hopes up. That would be putting the cart before the horse.
efrumttr:
--- Quote from: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 14:29 ---One of my friends has a lakehouse and a speedboat. =P
But yeah, it definitely seems out-of-the blue when I tell my friends something personal like that. (I don't have stuff as personal as gender or sexuality figured out, but there have been times in my life like the ones you described and... now I don't know if any of this made sense.) :psyduck:
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All I saw was that your friend has a lakehouse and a speedboat and now I'm super jealous :-P
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