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WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
ankhtahr:
Yeah, I love his sentence structure in German. Shakespeare got nothing on Kant.
This is one sentence:
--- Quote ---Allein anderer Seits erhebt es [die menschliche Vernunft] wiederum und giebt ihr ein Zutrauen zu sich selbst, daß sie diese Disciplin selbst ausüben kan und muß, ohne eine andere Censur über sich zu gestatten, imgleichen, daß die Gränzen, die sie ihrem speculativen Gebrauche zu setzen genöthigt ist, zugleich die vernünftelnde Anmaßungen iedes Gegners einschränken und mithin alles, was ihr noch von ihren vorher übertriebenen Forderungen übrig bleiben möchte, gegen alle Angriffe sicher stellen könne.
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It's also a bit difficult because it uses old orthography and very old fashioned wordings. I had to read it several times only to find out what it's about. Now I looked up a translation. Oh by the gods, this makes everything a whole lot easier:
--- Quote ---But, on the other hand, reason is reassured and gains self-confidence, on finding that it itself can and must apply this discipline, and that it is not called upon to submit to any outside censorship; and, moreover, that the limits which it is compelled to set to its speculative employment likewise limit the pseudo-rational pretensions of all its opponents, and that it can secure against all attacks whatever may remain over from its former exaggerated claims.
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Bloody Kant.
Bertrand Russell on the other hand is wonderful to read, and was far ahead of his time, politically and socially. Many of his political or social statements still hold true:
--- Quote ---There are those who blame the Press, but in this I think they are mistaken. The Press is such as the public demands, and the public demands bad newspapers because it has been badly educated.
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--- Quote ---All who are not lunatics are agreed about certain things. That it is better to be alive than dead, better to be adequately fed than starved, better to be free than a slave. Many people desire those things only for themselves and their friends; they are quite content that their enemies should suffer. These people can only be refuted by science: Humankind has become so much one family that we cannot ensure our own prosperity except by ensuring that of everyone else. If you wish to be happy yourself, you must resign yourself to seeing others also happy.
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And I still love his comment in the Principia Mathematica after proving that 1 + 1 = 2:
--- Quote ---The above proposition is occasionally useful.
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Loki:
--- Quote from: hedgie on 22 Sep 2014, 23:32 ---I have heard from multiple professors, that if possible, even if one is a native German speaker, to just read the English translation, and thank $DEITY that you did.
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...that would have saved me SO MUCH TIME!
To expand on Marten's thought: Our ancestors drank, therefore we are.
ankhtahr:
Bwahahaha, okay, now that one might actually be true. :mrgreen:
Ah, I found the first text which I read from Russell, it was an excerpt from his "Problems of Philosophy". Great to read, easy to follow, quite thought-provoking.
Orkboy:
--- Quote from: Nyithra on 22 Sep 2014, 22:48 ---Now I wanna write a story where people can only exist if they've been drinking. Or perhaps drinking sends people to an alternate universe, I dunno.
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My buddy ran a game a little bit like that. It was set in a city you could only enter by staying away long enough and wanting something enough to do anything to get it. It was a surreal nightmarish place, where everyone had at least mild sleep-deprivation madness.
katsmeat:
--- Quote from: hedgie on 22 Sep 2014, 23:25 ---Maybe he's only *visible* || perhaps corporeal when someone else has drinking? And why if there's a god of wine, why isn't there a god of hangovers?
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The "Oh, God" of hangovers, you mean. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld_gods#Bilious
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