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WCDT: 2811-2815 (13-17 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
BenRG:
--- Quote from: plusorminus on 13 Oct 2014, 06:26 ---Which makes me think that something happened off-screen. We see Cosette telling Dora about what happened, and the next is Dora striding into CoD "brother-free," which suggests that in the intervening time, she confronted Sven and they argued and possibly Sven said some stuff that Dora can't forgive or forget. This could impact directly on Faye-Angus, because the "I don't have a brother" thing is a bomb yet to be exploded and I can't imagine Faye, having to deal with all she has to deal with right now, taking too kindly to that.
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This my theory too. Knowing Sven he probably counter-argued in the worst possible ways; everything he said was 'me, me, me, I, me' and Faye was only mentioned in the context of someone whose presence would give him comfort and pleasure; there was no mention as to what Faye would get out of this. That would explain Dora's specific description of him as being 'toxic'.
Thrillho:
--- Quote from: aphanisis81 on 13 Oct 2014, 06:09 ---
--- Quote from: Gareth on 13 Oct 2014, 06:07 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 13 Oct 2014, 06:02 ---It deserves repeating: Sven isn't bad, he's just self-absorbed almost to the point of parody.
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That drunk fucking linked earlier in the thread suggests otherwise.
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Because of the Faye issue or because he's, as others have suggested, taking advantage of a drunk woman?
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The latter. If he was equally drunk which still isn't necessarily acceptable, he certain had a remarkably lucid thought pattern for a drunk man.
kerky:
--- Quote from: aphanisis81 on 13 Oct 2014, 06:08 ---I agree that Sven isn't bad, but what you go on to describe him as is basically the standard definition of a sociopath...
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And I think he's spot on. The other characters are no angels either, and all have issues of some kind, but noone will ever get close to the level of selfishness and pricklyness (is there such a term anyways?) Sven has exhibited.
I think as of now he is in QC to be hated by the audience. (Now playing: Behind Blue Eyes by The Who)
aphanisis81:
--- Quote from: kerky on 13 Oct 2014, 06:37 ---
--- Quote from: aphanisis81 on 13 Oct 2014, 06:08 ---I agree that Sven isn't bad, but what you go on to describe him as is basically the standard definition of a sociopath...
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And I think he's spot on. The other characters are no angels either, and all have issues of some kind, but noone will ever get close to the level of selfishness and pricklyness (is there such a term anyways?) Sven has exhibited.
I think as of now he is in QC to be hated by the audience. (Now playing: Behind Blue Eyes by The Who)
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I think it's worth noting that, as a secondary character, he's mostly brought in to create plot developments (read: drama), and to be someone for the main cast to react to. He's not just Sven: He's Dora's Brother and Faye's Ex-Hookup. I think that makes it easier to see him SOLELY as those things. If Marten cheated on someone, we'd probably sympathize, because he's a much more rounded character with whom we've spent time in a variety of contexts.
aphanisis81:
--- Quote from: Gareth on 13 Oct 2014, 06:36 ---
--- Quote from: aphanisis81 on 13 Oct 2014, 06:09 ---
--- Quote from: Gareth on 13 Oct 2014, 06:07 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 13 Oct 2014, 06:02 ---It deserves repeating: Sven isn't bad, he's just self-absorbed almost to the point of parody.
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That drunk fucking linked earlier in the thread suggests otherwise.
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Because of the Faye issue or because he's, as others have suggested, taking advantage of a drunk woman?
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The latter. If he was equally drunk which still isn't necessarily acceptable, he certain had a remarkably lucid thought pattern for a drunk man.
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I don't think there's any indication that they're anything more than buzzed, and there's certainly no indication that Sven is taking advantage or being pushy. In fact, I don't see any way to read Gina's expression in the first panel as anything other than "I am SO gonna fuck this guy."
I fully understand the discourse about consent and the muddling role that alcohol plays in it, but are we realistically going to say that two adults can't meet in a bar, have a few drinks, and then go have sex, without it being considered sexual assault? That seems hysterical to me.
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