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WCDT: 2811-2815 (13-17 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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plusorminus:

--- Quote from: bhtooefr on 16 Oct 2014, 05:40 ---You know... Dora's reaction to her jealousy was to push both Marten and Faye away.

I wonder if Claire's will be the opposite - to keep her friends close, her enemies closer... and end up making Faye not an enemy. (Not that she's exactly an enemy per se, but in this context...)

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I honestly am not sure that Claire will be jealous of Faye. Possibly now that she is going to be dating Marten she will view his interactions with her in a different light, especially if Faye is single, but she knows the backstory. Further, she seemed more impressed that Marten had bagged Dora than that he still lived with a former object of his affection. Claire also doesn't have the history Dora has. Per Sven, all of her pre-Marten boyfriends treated her like shit. I don't think Claire will think to be jealous of Faye unless she starts hitting on Marten or something, which is unlikely.

Oop. I just read ahead from that comic and saw that Claire has issues with infidelity because of her folks and she jumped to conclusions mighty quick about Tai, Dora and Marten. Hmmm. Still, I am not sure Faye would in act in a way that would bother Claire. They seem to genuinely like each other.

cesium133:

--- Quote from: plusorminus on 16 Oct 2014, 06:27 --- I don't think Claire will think to be jealous of Faye unless she starts hitting on Marten or something, which is unlikely.

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It is possible we could end up seeing an inversion of this (except without the violence of course...)

Neko_Ali:
I wouldn't even know why Claire would be jealous of Faye in the first place. By the time she met Marten and Faye they had been living together as best friends and nothing more for a long time. She knows about their history, and Marten's relationship with Dora. Plus it was Faye that pushed her towards Marten with an all but stated "hey, I like you, you'll be good for my friend, so go for it." The only reason at all she might be jealous is the dumbness of thinking a guy and a girl can't be friends/live together without either sleeping or lusting after each other. Obviously that's not the case. Faye never felt that way, and Marten got over that a long time ago.

BenRG:
I'm just hoping that Jeph avoids the stereotypical and predictable screaming fight, bad-tempered walk-out and Faye going into a spiralling self-destructive depressive episode. It's plausible but I'm not entirely sure it's right.

In today's strip, Faye admitted to herself that it's all gone wrong and that she's at least partly to blame (although Angus has his own screw-ups for which he is responsible). In some important ways, it could be used to show Faye's growth as a character that, instead of tearing herself apart, she's determined to make this end well. She'll be sad in the end but she avoids histronics.

Then, as the final indication that she's looking forward, rather than backward, Sven approaches her again; he's heard about the break-up through the Cossette-Steve-Sven pipeline and wonders if he's now in with a chance. "I think I'm going to stay single for a while, Sven," she says at last and walks off.


--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 16 Oct 2014, 06:33 ---I wouldn't even know why Claire would be jealous of Faye in the first place.
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Simply because Faye may need Martin's time and company to regain her mental and emotional balance. Claire would be entirely human if she felt a little jealous that someone other than her was the focus of her new boyfriend's attention.

plusorminus:

--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 16 Oct 2014, 06:33 ---I wouldn't even know why Claire would be jealous of Faye in the first place. By the time she met Marten and Faye they had been living together as best friends and nothing more for a long time. She knows about their history, and Marten's relationship with Dora. Plus it was Faye that pushed her towards Marten with an all but stated "hey, I like you, you'll be good for my friend, so go for it." The only reason at all she might be jealous is the dumbness of thinking a guy and a girl can't be friends/live together without either sleeping or lusting after each other. Obviously that's not the case. Faye never felt that way, and Marten got over that a long time ago.

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I think this is key, specifically because it was a marked difference from how Faye advised him on Emily. She had to understand that Marten was agonizing over that situation in part because he found Emily attractive and under other circumstances he might have been interested in asking her out. She and Claire are in the exact same situation as "underlings" to Marten. Yet Faye didn't suggest that Marten talk to Emily or even ask her on a night out with friends to gauge their chemistry. He just said he was going to drop it and Faye was like "Good choice." So I think that Faye does really like Claire and feels that she'd be good for Marten and vice-versa. She might get upset over the breakup, and as her roommate and best friend, Marten will be dealing with some of the fallout, but there will also be Hanners and Dora and possibly even Marigold, too.

I'm not saying that Claire might not be jealous. I'm curious as to whether the Emily thing is going to come up again at some point, for example, but Claire seems pretty empathetic to me, and she might even prove to be a shoulder to cry on if Faye and Angus break up.

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