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WCDT: 2816-2820 (20-24 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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Emperor Norton:

--- Quote from: Aimless on 20 Oct 2014, 14:55 ---Man, it woulda been way smarter and more effective for Angus to remember for a brief moment that it kinda sucks for some people when their partner moves to the another city to pursue their dreams. I don't want to remove Fay's agency or treat her like she's a turnip but this woulda made more sense for Angus to handle. Still, I have hope for those two.

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He tried to bring it up several times, between each step of the audition process. He even considered not even going to the audition (which would have been a terrible idea) when talking to Marten.

He's been thinking about this from the beginning. He just can't talk about it with her until she actually decides to talk about it.

(I just reread everything with the two of them in it from like, 2600 on. I had actually missed how many times he tried to discuss it.)

ReindeerFlotilla:

--- Quote from: Aimless on 20 Oct 2014, 14:55 ---Man, it woulda been way smarter and more effective for Angus to remember for a brief moment that it kinda sucks for some people when their partner moves to the another city to pursue their dreams. I don't want to remove Fay's agency or treat her like she's a turnip but this woulda made more sense for Angus to handle. Still, I have hope for those two.

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Yup, yup. That's why I'm understanding of both sides.

Sure, Angus could have done better. He had several opportunities and missed them. But the thing is, he showed up saying, "WOOO WEEE! I JUST WON THE LOTTERY!"

And Faye was all, "Negative Ghostrider. The Pattern is full."

He wasn't expecting it, and having his good news (good new about HIM) cause someone he loves to become obstinate probably hurt, a lot. Faye bounced from signs of fear to direct challenge, so it probably wasn't obvious to him that she was afraid. So he's all "WTF?" He had chances to get inside Faye's doom spiral and head it off, but I don't think a reasonable person could have seen those chances under the circumstances.

What happened between them was like a classic internet argument. Two people talking past each other. By the time Angus cottoned what was up, the situation was tricky. 

Edit: typos

TRVA123:
I think this will be good for both of them.

Angus will be unburdened when he gets to NY, he can focus on his job and finding a place. If they were still together he would have to spend a lot of energy reassuring Faye.

Faye has gotten closer to realizing what she wants from a relationship; and realizing that, even if a boyfriends leaves her, the support system that she has here is amazing and will hold her up.

LilShortstuf:

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--- Quote from: Staff_Inflection on 19 Oct 2014, 05:14 ---A spinoff comic staring the bros would be fantastic

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Maybe the bros recruit Steve to be part of their secret order?

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He's the secret member of the secret order. The HBIC, as it were.

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Well Steve has already outed his Bro Sense.

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Fixed the link. Care to fix it in the original post? Once it's done, I'll fix this message to say my peace (tl;dr version: I applaud Marten).

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Danke. I'm used to a different forum so did the wrong code. Just need to get used to this one.

NemoX:
Hi there everyone! :)

Long time reader, mid-time lurker, finally made an account, I have been archive binging the comic from the beginning this past 2 weeks and wanted to add my 2 cents in.

I think something that a lot of people seem to forget, even tho it is discussed about, is the time in QC verse vs what we as readers experience. I think to date, the only couple that you could probably consider developing/existing long term was Dora+Marten, specially with the time skip. However, both Claire+Marten and Angus+Faye have not been going on for that long if you really think about it. Sure, Angus and Faye have been courting for a long time now, but as a relationship, it feels that it has not been that long, maybe a couple of months at most. So Angus making this big a decision is not completely selfish, just he doesn't know any better because as a couple they have not existed for that long. There's that thing about a 7 year itch, but most people who have been in a long term relationship should have experienced a similar thing along the 3-5 month mark. If its overcome, the relationship progresses, but they are still technically learning about each other. same when a couple decides to move together. No matter how much time they spend with each other normally, its not quite the same actually living together. If both Faye and Angus manage to figure something out, maybe the LDR for a while, they will officially have overcome a milestone in their relationship. If not, then it wasn't meant to be. It happens in real life all the time, that's just how it is.

For Claire and Marten, they also have not know each other for a long time either. I mean, from what I just read, the wedding didn't happen that much longer after they started as interns, and while I have had experience with people feeling comfortable enough to open up and revel secrets about themselves to me in a very short time, it seemed that the level of comfort and confidence she displayed towards Marten was rather high in such a short time. I'll scratch it up to Marten being a nice guy and having that kind of charisma tho. Time will tell how much any of this affects the relationship. I mean, rushing things didn't work for Dora in the long run when she pursued Marten, but she had known him for a while longer at least. We'll see if it plays a role this time or if Marten has truly grown as a person and learned from past mistakes or not.

What I'm trying to say is, people are giving these situations a lot of flak, guided by like or dislike of the characters, which in itself speaks well of Jeph's ability as a story teller to invest his readers in the characters, but as characters in a relationship, they are still fresh and learning to handle them. Its hard enough to make a relationship work sometimes with the normal things you gotta face, let alone with the myriad of issues some of them carry. All we can do is enjoy the ride and hope the good story(ies) Jeph has been telling for a decade now remain as interesting and compelling, and most importantly, relatable as they have always been :)

P.S> I laughed a lot at how some things Jeph wrote back then are funny or ironic in hindsight, like his newpost on strip 2217 (sorry, don't know how to do the fancy links yet) regarding how everyone assumed he would hook up with one of the interns :P

PPS> sorry if my post was mostly incoherent rambling, been a long day

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