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WCDT: 2816-2820 (20-24 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
ReindeerFlotilla:
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--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 19 Oct 2014, 19:54 ---The onus is on both of them. The responsibility for a relationship is NEVER on one person alone. He is responsible for fixing this, but so is she. Even if fixing it is just talking about what they want and coming to the conclusion that they can't be together anymore.
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Exactly. No healthy relationship can be one-sided when it comes to any level of falling out, and, at least to me, their relationship so far has been pretty healthy. They both bear the onus of fixing this. What remains to be seen is whether both of them will be willing to bear it. If either one decides not to work for this then the relationship was over when Angus left the coffee shop.
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In a perfect world. Equal right, equal responsibility, everyone doing the right thing.
It's not a perfect world, even in the QCverse. If it were, this situation wouldn't have happened.
Angus has less of crippling burden, therefore greater resources. If he wants a continuing relationship with Faye, that means he--as the party with more resources--has to take on more work.
A healthy relationship is not what they have. If they want a healthy relationship, their options are A) The healthiest person carries the load until the other can should some of it. B) Both parties wait until both parties have equal carrying capacity.
B is a bad choice, something Marty and Dora realized.
In the real world, no relationship is equal. A truly healthy relationship is one where both partners have sufficient opportunity to play to their strengths. Each supports the other in turn, as life throws complications at them. Who is supporting who might change so fast neither knows who's hold who up. Or one partner might end up under the load for years.
Faye's damage is extensive. Angus's isn't. His options are to support Faye in getting better, or admit he can't do that. It's not fair, but neither is life.
Of course, that calculus may be moot. Marten was ready to shoulder that burden for Dora. Dora didn't allow it. Nothing says Faye is going to do give Angus the chance. After all, it isn't fair.
plusorminus:
--- Quote from: Gladstone on 19 Oct 2014, 20:51 ---
Long enough for Angus to leave, not long enough for Dora to swoop in to help. And she's right there off-panel. Surely the customers annoying people who give her money aren't nearly as important as Faye right now. What's going on?
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I'm not sure how you know the second part is true? There's no real way to know how much time passed between the "I SHIP IT" strip and Angus walking in. I sort of think if Dora were in the near vicinity:
a) Angus would have said hi to her too
b) Dora would have offered a possible awkward congrats to him
c) She would have tried to get Faye's attention when the convo started going south
Yes, COD is Dora's business, but there's not really any evidence that she was just standing there gawking, ignored basically by Angus, when he came in and during the time he and Faye were talking. Could be wrong. *shrug*
Jazzmaster:
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 19 Oct 2014, 21:51 ---
In the real world, no relationship is equal. A truly healthy relationship is one where both partners have sufficient opportunity to play to their strengths. Each supports the other in turn, as life throws complications at them. Who is supporting who might change so fast neither knows who's hold who up. Or one partner might end up under the load for years.
Faye's damage is extensive. Angus's isn't. His options are to support Faye in getting better, or admit he can't do that. It's not fair, but neither is life.
Of course, that calculus may be moot. Marten was ready to shoulder that burden for Dora. Dora didn't allow it. Nothing says Faye is going to do give Angus the chance. After all, it isn't fair.
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And for a while, Faye wanted to play these bullshit games where she "tested" Angus, and he was willing to put up with all of it. Marten finally stepped in and encouraged her to push past her issues, and open herself up to the idea of dating again.
Perhaps Marten and/or Dora will have to step in and give her a little nudge again. A nudge for Angus too perhaps, although nobody in Faye's circle is really all that close to him besides Faye herself, so I'm not sure that'll really happen.
Gladstone:
--- Quote from: plusorminus on 19 Oct 2014, 22:20 ---I'm not sure how you know the second part is true? There's no real way to know how much time passed between the "I SHIP IT" strip and Angus walking in.
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Yes, COD is Dora's business, but there's not really any evidence that she was just standing there gawking, ignored basically by Angus, when he came in and during the time he and Faye were talking. Could be wrong. *shrug*
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Yeah, you're right, sorry. I just keep picturing strips 2811-2815 mirroring strip #1663, with Dora just off to the side, only looking horrified instead of squeeful. It's my headcanon, but you don't have to respect that. :-)
Kugai:
And remember, Dora gave Faye more responsibility as to managing CoD so she could cut back on the amount of time she spends there
Nicely done Marten BTW
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