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Hannelore Elicott-Chatham - The First Relationship

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NemoX:

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The world seems to have forgotten the idea of chaste romantic relationships. It would be a fun change of pace to see one appear in a comic series. I can imagine a very cute situation of Hannelore exchanging flowers and compliments with an asexual guy.

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I don't think the world has forgotten in so much as the couples who do, don't go out of their way to advertize it, precisely because if they are the kind of people who have those kinds of views, would deem inappropriate to share such personal details and information that only pertains to them. Likewise, the societal stigma nowadays would not give any incentive to advertize you having one.

There are always exceptions of course, I know a few people who have this kind of relationship (with varying degrees of frustration from one or both parties involved), but the vast majority I bet don't even think twice about it enough to make it an issue. It's just another fact n their relationship.

I can see Hanners pursuing this type, altho if she were to feel more adventurous she might slowly push boundaries. slowly.  The only thing holding her back is her OCD and neurosis, but we know she is also interested in more (having the urge to grab Sven's butt, her fascination with firemen and such earlier in the strip, or the files she got from marigold) so she does have an adventurous side to her desires, its whether she acts on them or not that may be the source of drama/comedy or inner struggle, and quite frankly a development on her character that may be interesting to see.

I mentioned before I admire Hannelore, whatever Jeph decides to do with her, I can only hope it continues to be beautiful and inspiring like her previous arcs have been

ReindeerFlotilla:
From a personal development stand point, this seems a ways off. Hannelore's learned how to give physical intimacy, but she's still shaky on the receiving.

Her ability to go down rabbit holes of anxiety is still enough to leave her paralyzed by recursive worry.

The list goes on. It's enough to say she just isn't ready.

But that's hardly good storytelling.

The moment of truth almost has to come before she's ready. To do otherwise is to give up a shipload :clairedoge: of gag-a-day opportunities. So the only reasonable estimate of how close we are to this story is "Is Jeph itiching to tell it?"

Station seems like, I dunno, the wrong option. He's clearly besotted, but he's also--basically--her dad. While Hanners has affection for her real dad, she's been clear that he was a distant parent. Station was the only father figure she had, or would sometimes allow. Hanners seems to think of him in that frame work.

NemoX:

--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 22 Oct 2014, 15:11 ---From a personal development stand point, this seems a ways off.
The list goes on. It's enough to say she just isn't ready.

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But that's hardly good storytelling.

The moment of truth almost has to come before she's ready. the only reasonable estimate of how close we are to this story is "Is Jeph itiching to tell it?"


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I don't think anybody is honestly expecting it any time soon, merely its a discussion for when/if it happens. We are also at the mercy of Jeph throwing us an unforeseen curve ball like he sometimes has done lol


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Station seems like, I dunno, the wrong option. He's clearly besotted, but he's also--basically--her dad. While Hanners has affection for her real dad, she's been clear that he was a distant parent. Station was the only father figure she had, or would sometimes allow. Hanners seems to think of him in that frame work.

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Well, I think the issue there would also be that while Hanners might look at station in that frame work, station seemed to have a different view of it. He did seem a bit more leaning towards "if you love them let them go" kind of approach when it came to Hanners, so essentially it's an unrequited love type of deal at best. I don't see it working either. If Jeph ever pairs Hannelore up at all, I think it will be with a yet to be included new character, with his/her/it's respective character development as to why it would be a good match (or not, she also can learn about failed relationships, nobody said she has to have a successful one either)

Either way, probably a long ways to go before it happens, again, barring any Jeph curve balls

hakko504:

--- Quote from: NemoX on 22 Oct 2014, 15:44 ---Either way, probably a long ways to go before it happens, again, barring any Jeph curve balls

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I think a Hannelore relationship would be about the last thing we'll ever see in QC. Literally. As in the final panel of the final strip once Jeph decided to end the comic. Hannelore's dreams and striving to become a 'normal' person is one of the cornerstones of the comic (together with Marten's life) and to all of a sudden put her in a normal relationship would, once the initial drama/comedy settles, quite frankly not be very interesting. She'd just be another girl and we've got quite enough of those already. To the point where Penelope and Cosette are almost out of the comic, and they are arguable the most 'normal' girls in the cast.
Anyway, I don't think we'll see Hannelore in a relationship until maybe another couple of years have passed in comic. Which means at least 8-10 years in real life.

ReindeerFlotilla:

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--- Quote from: NemoX on 22 Oct 2014, 15:44 ---Either way, probably a long ways to go before it happens, again, barring any Jeph curve balls

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I think a Hannelore relationship would be about the last thing we'll ever see in QC. Literally. As in the final panel of the final strip once Jeph decided to end the comic. Hannelore's dreams and striving to become a 'normal' person is one of the cornerstones of the comic (together with Marten's life) and to all of a sudden put her in a normal relationship would, once the initial drama/comedy settles, quite frankly not be very interesting. She'd just be another girl and we've got quite enough of those already. To the point where Penelope and Cosette are almost out of the comic, and they are arguable the most 'normal' girls in the cast.
Anyway, I don't think we'll see Hannelore in a relationship until maybe another couple of years have passed in comic. Which means at least 8-10 years in real life.

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A relationship doesn't have to make Hanners "normal." Whatever normal is.

There's a certain logic to holding out Cosette and Pen2 as "normal" but the fact is they are merely one dimensional. We don't see much out of them because they aren't particularly deep characters. Cosette started out as someone whose entire character was in being accident prone. Now, she's just kinda there. Pen2's entire schtick was "Dammit I am NOT PIZZA GIRL!" Pretty much her entire personality is summed up right there.

This doesn't make either useless. The only character we can be sure we'll never see again is Sara. Jeph likes having a large cast because it gives him plenty to work with if he gets tired of using a character. Out of the current cast, however, Pen2 and Cosette are the least interesting. Mostly, IMO because they are the least neurotic (Barring Momo, but she's the straightman to several characters). I doubt an actual relationship would make Hannelore less neurotic. At least not so much that she stops being useful.

We've yet to see a relationship cure neurosis in this comic. Hanners won't be the first.

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