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WCDT: 2826-2830 (03 - 07 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
BenRG:
--- Quote from: Gladstone on 06 Nov 2014, 20:41 ---Marigold and Dale (happy), Veronica and Jim (happy), Marten and Claire (happy happy happy), Faye and Pintsize (punches).
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I'm an old softie but I'd like the last panel to be divided in two: Faye on her own in a bar of some kind and the last panel her looking up with a surprised expression at a new male character who has stepped up and is trying to start a conversation with her.
The message? Life goes on.
--- Quote from: Rghfrgl on 06 Nov 2014, 22:54 ---
--- Quote from: Gladstone on 06 Nov 2014, 20:10 ---Or a sleeping montage (which I can't seem to find at the moment, but there are at least two of them) showing various characters and couples in bed, although this fan-art is probably what we'll see from M&C.
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I love that fanart.
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Anybody want to place bets on the likelihood that Marten is going to develop a weird 'thing' about snuggling in Claire's hair? I mean, after the 'skritch-skritch', I think he's developing a definite liking for it!
ZoeB:
My squee meter just overloaded.
NemoX:
--- Quote from: AprilArcus on 06 Nov 2014, 22:21 ---
But that's neither here nor there. I pointed out "The Little Mermaid"'s trans subtext to illuminate an interesting visual parallel to people who might not have picked up on it otherwise, not to shame trans people for existing or Disney for telling our stories. The comparison really hurts my feelings.
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The times I have seen you analyze something you always seem to just state facts and observations and use them to formulate and share ideas and possible interpretations of something, but not as opinions and merely as "hey guys this could also be seen as this" or "have you ever considered this interpretation?", you don't force people to see things your way or claim everybody else is wrong if they don't see it your way or decry other points of view.
That article is a whole lot more biased opinions than actual observations and that is what I had a problem with. It's aim is not to spark a healthy discussion but to put down a whole community because of opposing beliefs. Yes, the movie could be interpreted and seen to have undertones of different things, but end of the day, unless it's a conscious effort of the writer (and in the case of movies maybe writers in plural, hence more difficult to coordinate that kind of thing) its more likely that somebody wrote a story without even realizing or thinking about possible interpretations and just wanted to share a story. People will see what they want to see.
I too find the comparison of what you do to that particular article rather...out of place and unnecessary. Like I said, the approach and tone are completely different. Just keep doing what you do, the rest of us here enjoy it immensely. :)
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: davedig on 06 Nov 2014, 23:07 ---Oh oh fan art! I found an adorable re-draw of Martin telling Claire his feelings then kissing. Another of Martin and Claire looking at clouds, both are on DA though not sure if I'd get trouble for linking though.
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I couldn't find the first; the second is OK-ish, I suppose, given Jeph's predeliction for butts! Link it in the fanart thread.
valkygrrl:
--- Quote from: Gladstone on 06 Nov 2014, 20:10 --- although this fan-art is probably what we'll see from M&C.
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This, a thousand times this.
Protip: If you have long hair, braid it before being the small spoon. It saves the hair being eaten and/or ending up under the other person's body/limbs/head.
--- Quote from: NemoX on 07 Nov 2014, 05:10 ---The times I have seen you analyze something you always seem to just state facts and observations and use them to formulate and share ideas and possible interpretations of something, but not as opinions and merely as "hey guys this could also be seen as this" or "have you ever considered this interpretation?", you don't force people to see things your way or claim everybody else is wrong if they don't see it your way or decry other points of view.
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That is one way to read things. What with all the weasel wordy maybe filled passive voice... Oh wait. Short declarative active voice. Hmmm.
--- Quote from: NemoX on 07 Nov 2014, 05:10 --- but end of the day, unless it's a conscious effort of the writer (and in the case of movies maybe writers in plural, hence more difficult to coordinate that kind of thing) its more likely that somebody wrote a story without even realizing or thinking about possible interpretations and just wanted to share a story. People will see what they want to see.
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And that, not the the vile views in the linked article is the point.
People fixated on certain topics can always find them anywhere they want to and move any conversation to be about them. Even when it means twisting the general Disney theme these days of be yourself because you're really wonderful and accept people because they're wonderful too, to be about something _very_ specific. The little kids in the audience don't need subtext, that guideline alone covers all the bases.
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