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WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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ReindeerFlotilla:
I think Jeph confirmed that the story takes place in comic time. It's both "now" and 2006 in the QC universe. AI are (recently) legal people, and the technological singularity just happened. Also, some bands you never heard of put out albums (making it impossible for them to be the best band alive).

While Jeph's comment was somewhat tongue in cheek, the comic supports what he said. Marten appears to have been born close to the beginning of his parents marriage. They got together in the "70s" with certain elements indicating it was the late 70s.  Jeph said, in his AM A, that Marten was based on himself, and followed his experience from the beginning of the strip until the end of strip 2. Marten's age is about right for that.

Hanners's Mac looks like a fairly modern Mac OS (it gets hard to tell), and "press enter to search" rolled out in 2009 suggesting that it isn't 2006 in the comic, even though it is. I believe Angus's and Claire's cars represent bodystyles that weren't available in 2006. I'm going to bet the new music releases were current at the time the references were made.

It's September 2006 and September 2014 at the same time in the QC verse. In a few months it will probably be September 2015, but not. Unless October happens before December ends.

The preceding sentence was the entire point of this post.

AprilArcus:
It's easy once you get the hang of it. Thank your lucky stars you aren't trying to pick apart the timeline of the Marvel Universe, because that takes some real mastery of space, time, cognitive dissonance and fannish attention to detail. Check at this masterpiece of cultural hermeneutics by Rachel Edidin on today's episode of Elle Collins podcast "Into It":


--- Quote ---Elle: And I feel like that has to resolve the whole All New X-Men thing, which we haven't talked about — which we need to talk about.

Rachel: Oh god. Okay. Let's talk about All New X-Men.

Elle: So All New X-Men is a book where the original five X-men from the Silver Age, which is Jean Grey / Marvel Girl, Cyclops, Angel, Beast and Iceman are pulled out of the past by the Beast of the present day — so they're like 16 years old — and they're pulled into their future, which is like the Marvel Universe that we're used to, where the current Jean Grey is dead and the current Cyclops is a fugitive and maybe a terrorist, and I'm not even going to go into the current Angel. So it's basically like the old story where a superhero team gets pulled into a bleak, apocalyptic future, except their bleak apocalyptic future—

Rachel: Is our present!

Elle: —which I think is a great way to do that story.

Rachel: Yeah! One of the things I find fascinating about it is that I cannot place the original X-men chronologically anymore. The versions that exist in this future are obviously visually informed by the versions from the '60s, and narratively, but they're more directly informed by the versions from X-Men: Season One, which is a standalone graphic novel by Dennis Hopeless that sets those stories in a modern context. But at the same time they're unfamiliar with— there's a great scene fairly early on when teenage Cyclops is wondering whether something happened to the water, because now there's all this bottled water in stores. Which, y'know, anytime from the early '90s— so they got him from before the early '90s at least?



Elle: Yeah.

Rachel: I'm trying to think of what my cornerstones for that are. When did "Heathers" come out?

Elle: Heathers came out I think in '88.

Rachel: 'cause at least at that point bottled water was a thing, but it's used in the movie to specifically code a character as gay, which means that it hadn't entered the full mainstream at that point.



Elle: My God, that was some pop culture detective work.

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celticgeek:

--- Quote from: MooskiNet on 13 Nov 2014, 18:20 ---
Edited to add:  That's an estimate, of course - I'm not sure if there's a way to tie comic numbers to the dates they were posted except by approximation.

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I have the posted dates associated with comic numbers starting from comic Number 1258.

NemoX:
On the subject of timelines, I love how we as fans care about it and try to make sense of it, yet from the writer's point of view the rule is usually "it serves the purpose of the plot" and unless a time piece, its mostly irrelevant and our suspension of disbelief ends up having to be "just go with it". So long as its self consistent of course. Which so far, it has been

On other news, still no comic :(

AprilArcus:

--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 19:38 ---I believe Angus's and Claire's cars represent bodystyles that weren't available in 2006.

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Claire appears to drive a Mazda 3 hatchback, which came out in the '04 model year. Dale drives an unidentifiable gray four-door sedan. Tai drives a white SUV with a roof rack. When did we see Angus's car?

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