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Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015

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SomeCanadianWeirdo:
I suspect Alice is an ex-soldier.  She retired to what she thought was going to be a nice, relaxed place where the problems are simple and small, and where she expected not ever to have to fight again.  Because when she does fight, she gets rather nasty, as can be seen in her fight with Gavia. 

Method of Madness:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 13 Jan 2015, 13:23 ---Ardent's reaction when he awoke was so joyful that I suspect that he genuinely feared not waking up at all.
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I dunno, maybe it took hours to set up and he fell asleep on the transporter and didn't wake up until he was already in...Town.

FunkyTuba:
I doubt we'll get full exposition on entities that will become characters in the story. In other words, I think Jeph will let the Praeses tell its(their?) own story(ies) when the the time comes for it(them) to participate.

DSL:

--- Quote from: ysth on 13 Jan 2015, 11:42 ---I'm also a little troubled by a transporter that works but apparently delivers you unconscious.

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I would hope it works some way other than most people agree the Star Trek transporter is supposed to work: basically a people-fax that destroys the original after transmission.

ReindeerFlotilla:
Actually, that's not how the transporter works. The transporter uses good old E=mc2 (or more accurately, E²=(mc²)²+(pc)²) to turn the target into engery, then fires the energy at the destination, where it reassembles the energy as a person. Sine mass and energy are equivalent, it isa supposed to be the same person (same matter/energy) on each end.

My objection to the transporter is that turning even a tiny fraction of a person to energy would be a huge explosion. Then there's the whole method of handwavium behind converting matter to energy. I'm not against handwavium. I love the stuff.  but the thing about turning matter into energy is that some of the energy likes to whiz off as neutrinos. those thing are pretty much impossible to catch.

Those things aside, there's also the dead pan delivery and the implausible driving. Jason Statham's fun to watch in a fight, but something about flying Audis breaks suspension of disbelief.

Granted, any way you design a transporter, it's going to violate some law of physics (thus flying Audis) but the way the transporter is meant to work, there's no physical reason it couldn't make copies--it's not a fax as much as it is a factory. It takes you apart and puts you back together. There's no reason it has to reassemble you as you. It could assemble you as someone else (Tuvix anyone?). Given the right starting mass, there's no reason it couldn't assemble any starting material as you. The transporter can make people from scratch.

That's not a bad thing on its own, but it doesn't actually fit with the world Star Trek presents. The implications of what the transporter can do (including some of those kicks) are mind boggling. I'm all for a story that keeps to that--that doesn't try to sweep them under the rug, as were (or leg sweep them and punch them in the face). But if you aren't going to explore those implications, I'd rather just handwave in something equally improbable without the explosions and replication effect--like a wormhole or something.

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