Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
jmucchiello:
Dora likes Faye. There's nothing saying she can't rehire her after Faye gets her act together.
qc001:
I've seen a lot of posts mentioning the possible liability of keeping Faye on the payroll/at CoD while she is drunk. While I agree with the myriad problems of having drunk employees in ANY field in the real world, CoD has canonically been rather abusive to its customers without any fear of reprisal, to wit:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=81 - Faye mentions that Dora is "ten times worse" than she is, and made the DA cry for peeking down her shirt.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=259 - Dora (initially grudgingly) condones Faye's attack of a customer (in this case, Marten's ex, so justifiable?) using a dairy product, and outright praises her actions by the conclusion of the comic.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=285 & 286 - Dora is verbally abusive to a customer, Faye explains the business model of being abrasive to the clientele, and in 286, Dora says that she should consider reevaluating her business plan (of abusing the customers), as the customers are tipping Raven (man, we haven't seen Raven in a while!) for being friendly to them.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=654 - Dora and Faye are thrilled because the local write-up has brought in tons of new business precisely BECAUSE everyone is so abusive.
http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1258 - The espresso machine explodes, potentially scalding Faye's face/chest, but Dora responds by asking if the espresso machine is okay (clearly not concerned about the possibility that Faye could be seriously injured, and if so, could sue CoD for medical expenses)
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2278 - Hosing the obstreperous customers MUST be legal at CoD if Hannelore is willing to engage in such an activity.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2468 - Dora is concerned that a spider might have bitten Sam, which is perhaps the first inkling of worrying about anyone's personal safety while in the store, and noting that a basement full of spiders is a health hazard. Of course, Dora's concern might be due more to the fact that Sam is Jim's kid, since she routinely has her employees go into the basement to pick up the coffee. (Also, one hundred strips later, there are still a ton of spiders in the basement, so clearly Dora didn't actually do anything about it.)
Meanwhile, in variously sampled CoD strips, even if the dialogue topic isn't specifically the customers, the Specials on the blackboard continue to speak to CoD's...antipathy towards its customers (most just involve horrific-sounding food or drink items, but a couple of non-food ones stuck out to me):
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1288 - "We murder your pets and burn your house down. -$3.75"
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1880 - "Cactus up the _______" (we can guess the rest!)
(Random note: whenever Hannelore is on the clock, the Specials menu is always very friendly!)
Anyway, with this established in-comic history and Dora's policies, I find it difficult to justify the idea that Faye being drunk at work would lead to any serious liability vis a vis the safety of the customers leading to a lawsuit. Not that I wish to condone being drunk at work by any stretch of the imagination, but in QCVerse, at CoD, customer abuse is the house blend, so the idea that Dora being afraid of repercussions due to Faye unintentionally injuring a customer or somesuch is preposterous. To say otherwise is in direct violation of canon since the beginning of the strip.
Mmeaninglessnamee:
[Jumping back through the discussion a bit]
Yeah, Tai's party at the library is this weekend, QC-time. In the past, parties in QC have brought reconciliation to plots, but I'm more expecting an expanding shitstorm at this one. Or maybe it will be entirely separate from Faye and Dora, just serving as a distraction for Marten to not be around when everything is (metaphorically) burning down.
[Yada Yada 3 new replies, forum's busy today]
plusorminus:
And once again the lovely Dora-hate rears its head. Huzzah!
It's cool for people who have despised Dora since she "stole Marten" from Faye to now take a collective dump on her for actually drawing a hard line against ickle Faye, but I'm sure that when/if Faye cabbages Marten and Claire's relationship, all of a sudden Faye will have a "problem." Right now Faye coming in drunk, lying, and trying to sneak a drink at work is at the same level of her making a customer a pickle/peanut butter monstrosity. Alrighty then. Or would it have been cool if Sam had come in while Faye was plastered and gotten her face burned off by a blowtorch? That would have been cool with ya'll? Rockin'.
At this point I hope Jeph kills Dora off. There can be a tearful Tai/Bailey reunion and Sven can but CoD and turn it into a recording studio and Penny and the rest can be retrained into sound engineers or something. Marten and Claire can buy part-interest in Secret Bakery and the real hijinks can ensue. Ooh, maybe even have Faye kill Dora, because hey, why the fuck not, Faye will be forgiven anything and I swear to fucking god some of you will only be satisfied when Dora's head is literally on a fucking stake outside the doors of CoD.
MrNumbers:
--- Quote from: SJCrew on 19 Jan 2015, 22:12 ---Too many people jumping the gun about this comic.
Especially MrNumbers.
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OI! Mate. Mate.
--- Quote ---For one, nobody deserves a pass for showing up to work inebriated, even if friendship and seniority were factors. That's your entitlement talking. You know that in the real world if you were hired by anyone who took their shit seriously, you couldn't get away with any gross display of unprofessionalism no matter how isolated the incident.
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1: What entitlement? That's a hell of an insinuation to make.
2: You're also insinuating I wish Faye should get away with it. It's clearly stated I want her to be severely reprimanded, with a lot of financial penalties. Termination is not literally the only thing in the world that ever works.
--- Quote ---Next, who said this was the end?
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... is Dora going to say "Is what I will say if you don't get your act together"? That would be one hell of a twist.
--- Quote --- We haven't even gotten to day two. For all we know, Faye can be fired for all of a day or a week before she patches things up or Dora seeks her out to get all 'supportive friend' on her, then give her the brass tacks before offering her job back. These things happen all the time in fiction.
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Which is exactly the kind of reprimand I'm endorsing. Except you don't call that a termination. That... I mean... if that turns out to be the case, I'll be incredibly vindicated. So I've still yet to see why you've singled me out?
--- Quote ---She's still fired, that much is certain, but how quickly she gets her job back is all in how quickly she makes it up to Dora. Either way, Dora's ass is covered morally and professionally because she's the one who was lied to, and she's the one who has to look out for the health of the business so that everyone can get paid.
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Again, agreed.
... why was I singled out, exactly. If she gets hired back in two weeks, it's just another version of what I was saying Dora should do.
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