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Faypocalypse Sven

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Claireten Snuggles

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Clintonhand Naughtyness

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Dora fires Faye - Drama and drunkenness ensues

50 (38.2%)

Clairemom and Martenmom accidentally meet

4 (3.1%)

Emily gets weirder (is that even possible?)

4 (3.1%)

Sven rescues Faye - Dora gets wrong end of stick

12 (9.2%)

The surprise return on Angus - Blood and mayhem ensue

5 (3.8%)

Purple Monkey Dishwasher

7 (5.3%)

Whatever it is, it'll be completely unexpected

22 (16.8%)

ALIENS!

3 (2.3%)

Total Members Voted: 123

[CaptainFish]

Okay, all I have is logic. AI is people, post singularity. If Faye rendered him permanently inoperative, she murdered him.

Yeah, that was in my mind as well.

I looked it up and in this strip his eyes go dim when Marigold turns him off to repair him. AI are handled a lot differently now, so it could probably still have some ramifications as a shitty thing to do to a sentient being with rights, but he's probably not in as bad shape as I first thought. All I could think of was the Momo-is-dead gag when Winston found her old chassis.

Marten definitely needs to rush Faye to the hospital ASAP, regardless of Pintsize's state.

Here's hoping those little white chunks on the couch aren't pills.

Oh, fuck.

[SRRRRRRRR]

Just want to say: Faye could be just fine or already dead.  Alcohol's kind of funny like that.

Her head is turned to the side, which reduces her chances of choking on her own vomit or blood by a tremendous amount.  Of course, if she drank a bottle of 80 proof whiskey inside of a day, she's probably in a state where her health could deteriorate rapidly.  Even if you don't take her to a hospital, you basically gotta baby her just in case she starts having breathing problems (especially because of her weight and how heavy her drinking is).

Anyway, why would Jeph kill Faye off?  It'd be too easy.

I just hope, for the love of chicken, that Angus does not come back and give up on his dream to be with Faye.  There's never a good reason to jump on a sinking ship.

Obligatory included because I enjoy the image.

Two things:  1: Her weight?  By no stretch of the imagination is Faye overweight enough to cause breathing problems.  2. I'm sure Marten checked to see that she was breathing before he called Claire.  If she were dead (which she is 100% not) I think his reaction would not have been nearly as chill.

It's not that she's overweight enough to cause breathing problems normally, it's that alcohol consumed in blackout quantities combines with a slightly above average weight to create those conditions.  Admittedly, the correlation goes for just about anybody who weighs say 20 pounds or more above what would be the 'desired' weight for their body.  But that's the reason why you shouldn't drink so dang much.

Also, as I said, she could die later.  That's the biggest risk of 'leaving someone to sleep it off', which too many people do.  Don't do that, by the way.  Too many people do that.

Of course, I can't see him killing of Faye right here.  It's not like he can't replace her, but if she's going to shuffle off the mortal coil it's probably going to be at the end of the comic.

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To the other person, the real issue is that Faye's a woman and women aren't better at tanking alcohol than men before we even factor weight in.  And, well, you or I would likely die from drinking a whole fifth of 80 proof whiskey in a day, especially if you pounded half of it right at the end.

I'm kind of on the hefty side and I'm pretty ready to go to bed after a few shots.  I've gotten to the point where I was worried about dying before, of course, but that's how I know that it's way better to just get your head spinning a little bit and then go lie down or post on forums for laughs.  Speaking of which, I got some E and J XO calling my name.   Only a little bit, but, hey, it's been a good night.  I just wish we weren't going to cliffhanger on this comic.

[Is it cold in here?]

I had not caught that. As jwhouk would say, "####!".

For future reference, don't try to drive someone to the hospital in a situation like that. If she stops breathing, better to have it happen inside an ambulance with oxygen and expert people right there than in your car in traffic.

[SRRRRRRRR]

Indeedily!

Leave it to the trained medical professionals who are more than likely experienced in dealing with people in such horrid states of alcohol poisoning.

[Zalder]

Indeedily!

Leave it to the trained medical professionals who are more than likely experienced in dealing with people in such horrid states of alcohol poisoning.

Well said.

I'm still totally convinces she's alive though. 

[xaszatm]

I'm gonna say that Faye is still alive. The way the comic is set up is way too undramatic for it to be her deathbed. I think she's in serious trouble but Marten's reaction would be more shock and horror than a quick cell phone call joke. Faye's still gonna need that ambulance though. Wonder if the punching intern still works there.

[Jazzmaster]

Anyways, hopefully Marten can be the calm in this shitstorm.

"Eye of the shitstorm", eh? Sounds nice...

I'm sad that Marten's date was cancelled. Damn you, Faye!

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Yup.  Hurricane Faye made landfall tonight as a category 5.  Expect it to be the costliest event in QC history.

[Is it cold in here?]

It's not that she's overweight enough to cause breathing problems normally, it's that alcohol consumed in blackout quantities combines with a slightly above average weight to create those conditions.  Admittedly, the correlation goes for just about anybody who weighs say 20 pounds or more above what would be the 'desired' weight for their body.
 

So is it the same mechanism that puts even modestly overweight people at risk for sleep apnea, but with the alcohol making things worse by blocking the wake-up reflex, even before it pulls its other trick of direct respiratory depression?

[mikmaxs]

Hooray, Marten reacted with trying to help Faye once realizing how she had hit rock bottom. Instead of the other thing.

Right, because firing someone for coming in plastered and loading up again, against regulations is the exact same thing as finding your AI companion shut off or erased and said person passed out in a pool of their own vomit. 

No, but being told that your best friend *intends* to drink themself into oblivion and desires to be drunk at all times is pretty similar to finding them passed out drunk and with vomit on the couch. That is, the thing Dora IGNORED.
Why do people keep acting like Faye's drinking at work came totally out of the blue?

[SRRRRRRRR]

It's not that she's overweight enough to cause breathing problems normally, it's that alcohol consumed in blackout quantities combines with a slightly above average weight to create those conditions.  Admittedly, the correlation goes for just about anybody who weighs say 20 pounds or more above what would be the 'desired' weight for their body.
 

So is it the same mechanism that puts even modestly overweight people at risk for sleep apnea, but with the alcohol making things worse by blocking the wake-up reflex, even before it pulls its other trick of direct respiratory depression?

That sounds remarkably logical and much more well-worded than the way I would have expressed it.  If it still sounds remarkably logical once the brandy has hit my brain, I'm going to note it down as fact.   My training is a bit out of date, and not as in-depth as a medical professional.   Are you a medical professional or some sort of specialist in the sciences of life?  Because that was well written and I appreciate you putting logical words to my now semi-drunken floundering.  Either way, I just remember being taught that being overweight or underweight are indicators that caution needs to be used when alcohol is being consumed in a 'binge' fashion, the former because of potential breathing problems (either exacerbated or created by the alcohol's effects on the body) and the latter because of lowered tolerance to the extent that the person is a 'one drink wonder'.

[Omega Entity]

Hooray, Marten reacted with trying to help Faye once realizing how she had hit rock bottom. Instead of the other thing.

Right, because firing someone for coming in plastered and loading up again, against regulations is the exact same thing as finding your AI companion shut off or erased and said person passed out in a pool of their own vomit. 

No, but being told that your best friend *intends* to drink themself into oblivion and desires to be drunk at all times is pretty similar to finding them passed out drunk and with vomit on the couch. That is, the thing Dora IGNORED.
Why do people keep acting like Faye's drinking at work came totally out of the blue?

It didn't really come out of the blue as Faye's been known to handle her problems with alcohol before. Faye wasn't letting on that the breakup was hitting her as hard as it was. You have to take into account that Martin's time has been spent out of her presence more often lately due to Claire, and therefore he likely hasn't realized just how often she's been drunk for the past few weeks. As for Dora, if she's only around her at work and hasn't been hanging out with her outside of it, same thing. I've known plenty of people who come into work hung over, and don't even let on. However, once Faye came in drunk and proceeded to drink in the store, shit got real. Faye pole-jumped over the line that Dora drew in the sand, and Dora acted accordingly. She's never been one to mollycoddle.

Add in how lackadaisical Faye is about everything, and it's no wonder that anyone didn't realize how bad things are for her. Constant sarcasm and levity tend to be a pretty good way to mask that you're hurting, especially if it's par for the course with that person.

[Lubricus]

It's time Marten sacks up and buys a new couch!

[Is it cold in here?]

Are you a medical professional or some sort of specialist in the sciences of life?

Nothing of the kind, which is why I had to ask the question. Just speculating based on my own sleep apnea problem. Please do not add that to your fact bank unless I turn out to have guessed right!

[SRRRRRRRR]

Are you a medical professional or some sort of specialist in the sciences of life?

Nothing of the kind, which is why I had to ask the question. Just speculating based on my own sleep apnea problem. Please do not add that to your fact bank unless I turn out to have guessed right!

I think you have.  More research is required.

[Rghfrgl]

It's time Marten sacks up and buys a new couch!

It's cool, just flip the cushions over. Again.

[Is it cold in here?]

He needs anti-Mobius cushions, which never run out of sides to flip. A hexaflexagon might come close.

[SRRRRRRRR]

He gotta hit up craigslist.

He can sell that old couch for like thirty as long as he flips the vomit down, then buy a used couch for like fifty.

[swapna]

Ah, it's getting worse and worse

I'm with a few other posters here - Marten should have called the emergency services immediately. Like, now. No calling Claire beforehand. And no, I don't think he already has - he's exactly where he was when he entered the room, he didn't move over to check if she's still breathing or has a pulse, which the operator would have told him to do.

It would have been way more responsible to call Claire when Faye's on the way to the hospital or already there - I mean, he probably wouldn't need to call it off anyway, he could just call the EMTs, let them take Faye and then proceed to watch a movie at Claire's. Won't take more than 15 minutes. I don't know how response-times are in the US, but they're in a city; emergency services should be at the scene in in less than 10. Of course I don't think he'll leave Faye alone when she's hurting like that, but the impression I got from his priorities (first tell his girlfriend that movie-night is off, an announcement that could have waited 10 minutes, especially when his friend might be in life-threatening danger; he didn't even check on her) is that he's mostly annoyed and way less concerned.

[Zalder]

Ah, it's getting worse and worse

I'm with a few other posters here - Marten should have called the emergency services immediately. Like, now. No calling Claire beforehand. And no, I don't think he already has - he's exactly where he was when he entered the room, he didn't move over to check if she's still breathing or has a pulse, which the operator would have told him to do.

It would have been way more responsible to call Claire when Faye's on the way to the hospital or already there - I mean, he probably wouldn't need to call it off anyway, he could just call the EMTs, let them take Faye and then proceed to watch a movie at Claire's. Won't take more than 15 minutes. I don't know how response-times are in the US, but they're in a city; emergency services should be at the scene in in less than 10. Of course I don't think he'll leave Faye alone when she's hurting like that, but the impression I got from his priorities (first tell his girlfriend that movie-night is off, an announcement that could have waited 10 minutes, especially when his friend might be in life-threatening danger; he didn't even check on her) is that he's mostly annoyed and way less concerned.

We don't know what happened between panels 3 & 4.  He might have checked her breathing already.  It looks like he hasn't moved, but it might just be the way our POV is set up.  Agreed that he should be calling 911 though.

[SRRRRRRRR]

In my podunk town, EMTs can do five minutes if you're lucky.  I think they can do less than ten in a city.

Either way, I'm guessing that in the next comic is either going to cut to a hospital or Marten's going to slap Faye awake or be panicking about how he can't wake Faye up.

[Omega Entity]

Depends on the size of the city, how many EMT stations are in said city and where they're located, time of day and how heavy the traffic is, construction, weather/road conditions... in other words, it could be 5 minutes, it could be half an hour or longer, all depending on the variables.

[Truec]

I don't pretend to be any kind of medical professional (okay, once or twice), but wouldn't vomiting mean Faye's in significantly less danger, because a sizable puddle's worth of alcohol is now in a sizable puddle, and not in her?  I thought that was the whole reason people vomit from drinking too much.

I don't know how response-times are in the US, but they're in a city; emergency services should be at the scene in in less than 10.

That's a difficult thing to judge about US cities, but I live near Detroit, so I'm a bit biased.

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[Lubricus]

I'm not sure what Marten thinks he'll spend time doing at this point - if Faye's injured or dead, he'll have to leave her to the EMTs, and if she's not, he'll probably not be able to wake her up. And maybe he shouldn't, anyway.

[Omega Entity]

I don't pretend to be any kind of medical professional (okay, once or twice), but wouldn't vomiting mean Faye's in significantly less danger, because a sizable puddle's worth of alcohol is now in a sizable puddle, and not in her?  I thought that was the whole reason people vomit from drinking too much.

I don't know how response-times are in the US, but they're in a city; emergency services should be at the scene in in less than 10.

That's a difficult thing to judge about US cities, but I live near Detroit, so I'm a bit biased.

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Hey, I'm like an hour north of Detroit! Small world.

As to vomiting, it can mean that you're fine, but not always. It all depends on how much alcohol was absorbed into the bloodstream in a short amount of time. If she didn't eat anything, for instance, the booze would get into her bloodstream that much faster.

[swapna]

We don't know what happened between panels 3 & 4.  He might have checked her breathing already.  It looks like he hasn't moved, but it might just be the way our POV is set up.  Agreed that he should be calling 911 though.

Yes, could be, but he's standing directly in the doorframe, and a 911 call would be at least a few minutes of checking on Faye (therefore moving), giving them the address and so on. If he already called 911, I think it would be clear (He's sitting besides Faye, the EMTs are already there, he's in the ambulance on the way to the hospital...)

I don't pretend to be any kind of medical professional (okay, once or twice), but wouldn't vomiting mean Faye's in significantly less danger, because a sizable puddle's worth of alcohol is now in a sizable puddle, and not in her?  I thought that was the whole reason people vomit from drinking too much.

Yeah, sometimes, but it could mean she can't breathe because her windpipe is blocked by vomit. Also, as Omega Entity pointed out, it could be too late since she drank a lot.

[ASB84]

As tough as the story is to see unfold - even for someone like myself who doesn't have any experience with addicts or alcoholics - I'm glad to see it continue, and not have cutaways to overly cutesy dates or gag strips or the like. That would just be some serious Mood Whiplash, and pretty choppy storytelling. Unpleasant, difficult, and confronting as this arc may be, it's one of the most important and serious ones in a while. It needs to play out.

I'm sure if Faye does end up having to go to hospital, it's not going to do much to restore Dora's image with readers who are already upset with her. For my part, I still think her hand was forced, and she was justified in the firing. I also think some people might be misinterpreting the "insubordination" speech; to me, it sounded like she was saying "Look, I put up with your quirks, I even eat up your (metaphorical) shit and call it ice cream, but you broke the one rule I asked everyone not to break under any circumstances."

At the end of the day, Faye is an adult, and whether this is truly a sign of a deep problem or a case of the blues that got way out of hand, she needs to take responsibility for her actions. One can sympathise with her, but that doesn't hand her a Get Out Of Jail Free card for anything and everything she does that's hurtful or objectionable.

I sympathise with Faye, but I also sympathise with Dora, who had to make a tough decision, and wasn't out of line given the circumstances (prior warnings, an understandable zero-tolerance rule, plenty of rope, assistant manager...it's all been covered in previous posts). I sympathise with Faye, because she's going through an awful time, quite likely has a serious problem, and is hitting rock bottom. I sympathise with Dora, because Faye can be extremely difficult, crossed the line here, and forced her hand.

It's natural to pick sides (especially when both characters are polarising among the fanbase), and nominate a good guy and bad guy in fiction. But honestly, I don't think there's a villain here.

Well, except Steve, of course. A friend he's known since the beginning of the strip is spiralling out of control, and all he can do is sit at home and eat cereal. What. A. Jerk.

[SRRRRRRRR]

I don't pretend to be any kind of medical professional (okay, once or twice), but wouldn't vomiting mean Faye's in significantly less danger, because a sizable puddle's worth of alcohol is now in a sizable puddle, and not in her?  I thought that was the whole reason people vomit from drinking too much.

Vomit includes some of the poison and your stomach contents.  The problem is that if the alcohol makes you puke, it's already gotten past your stomach and into your blood.  You will throw up some of the alcohol, but your body has already gotten enough in it that it could be at or past a dangerous amount.

[ReindeerFlotilla]

I bet if Jeph had any idea the reaction was going to escalate this quickly, he'd have written this differently. Like, smaller bottles, to start.

I don't think real world physics is in play here. I mostly pointed out the LD⁵⁰ because people need to be aware. In real life, that much drinking can kill you.

As for what Marten has to spend time doing: Leaving out the alcohol poisoning stuff, he has to get Faye out of her own vomit. Bile and skin should not be mixed.

He needs to clean up what he can.

I don't know about you, but after policing vomit, I wouldn't want to jump right into cuddles and a movie.

Ew.

[BenRG]

Damn it. I'm starting to hate being right with this arc!

So, it's to hospital for a while for Faye. The vomit is dark enough that there is blood in it. That means a ruptured stomach ulcer or something similar, which is not surprising for someone with a long-term drinking habit plus a history of stress-induced mental illness. That will mean even longer in the hospital and a doctor saying: "You will be teetotal or you will die." Faye is for a long, hard rehabilitation and I can't see her being the same woman ever again. Sharing a bottle with the Grim Reaper does that for you.

I think that next week will mostly be set at hospital with the cast waiting for Faye to get out of surgery and asking themselves if they could have done anything to have prevented this. The answer is probably 'no' but that won't stop them feeling guilty; especially Dora, who may end up just in as much danger as Faye.

As for Pintsize? I doubt that Faye shut him down in line with manufacturers' guidelines, so he might have lost his short-term memory cache and may need repairs. At the very least, he'll need attention from Marigold.

One final thought: in my view, this was a 'cry for help' suicide attempt.

I don't know about you, but after policing vomit, I wouldn't want to jump right into cuddles and a movie.

He may still need and get the cuddles. They'll just be on a hard bench in a hospital waiting room.

[Reaver]

Long time Lurker, first time poster!

I don't like Faye, I've never really liked her to be honest? That type of person I'd find extremely unpleasant to be around, I fully acknowledge that she's been through hell, but she always puts the other people around her through hell too which is really unfair , she seems to expect constant support no matter how badly she behaves...I think it's time she finally dealt with some consequences of her actions (Losing her job is a consequence of her own actions)

I don't blame Dora for firing her, nor do I blame her for not fussing and  calling Martin so he can babysit Faye. (I also don't like this sentiment of HOW DARE SHE FIRE  FAYE, Faye deserved to be fired, not only did she show up /drunk/ she /LIED/ about showing up drunk and then slipped in the back to drink more, she lied and broke one of the only few rules given to her by Dora, she deserved to be canned dang it)

Honestly I'm more worried about Pintsize than I am for Faye, Pintsize  has been in the background for a /long/ time, in fact he's even said his job with Marten is over because Marten has real friends now, this very well may be Jeph  escorting him out of the comic on a sadder note.


(So sorry about the long post  )

[ReindeerFlotilla]

I'm not trying to challenge anyone's right to detest fictional characters, but I gotta ask: If you hate [insert appropriate girl's name here] so much, why do you read the comic?

I am honestly unable to guess why, and I really would like to know.

[DonInKansas]

Anyways, hopefully Marten can be the calm in this shitstorm.

"Eye of the shitstorm", eh? Sounds nice...

I'm sad that Marten's date was cancelled. Damn you, Faye!

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"Eye of the Shitstorm" is my Alestorm cover band.

Is it awful that the first thing I imagined when I saw Pintsize was South Park?

Oh my god, she killed Pintsize!

You bastard!

[Reaver]

The word I used was /dislike/ I do not HATE her, I reserve hate for REAL people, and me DISLIKING  a character due to how they act isn't a discredit to the author, the fact I can feel ANYTHING for any of the characters period is a testimony to the authors  writing, and besides me disliking Faye does not discredit my opinion in the slightest, last I checked one of the rules of the site wasn't "You must like ALL OF THE CHARACTERS to discuss them"

*edited b/c Doe snot is irrelevant to mah post

[Lubricus]

doe snot

Don't bring female deer with the flu into this!

Sorry, I couldn't resist... 

[something random]

Ah, it's getting worse and worse

I'm with a few other posters here - Marten should have called the emergency services immediately. Like, now. No calling Claire beforehand. And no, I don't think he already has - he's exactly where he was when he entered the room, he didn't move over to check if she's still breathing or has a pulse, which the operator would have told him to do.

It would have been way more responsible to call Claire when Faye's on the way to the hospital or already there - I mean, he probably wouldn't need to call it off anyway, he could just call the EMTs, let them take Faye and then proceed to watch a movie at Claire's. Won't take more than 15 minutes. I don't know how response-times are in the US, but they're in a city; emergency services should be at the scene in in less than 10. Of course I don't think he'll leave Faye alone when she's hurting like that, but the impression I got from his priorities (first tell his girlfriend that movie-night is off, an announcement that could have waited 10 minutes, especially when his friend might be in life-threatening danger; he didn't even check on her) is that he's mostly annoyed and way less concerned.

I agree everything you say about what the responsible thing for Martin to do would have been but people do not always act responsibly.

It may wishful thinking on my part but I think it would be  plausible for Martin to release that his friend might be in life-threatening danger as the penny drops either just after he finished the call or as he is telling Claire what happened. Assuming he has not phoned the EMT's already or coarse.

[Reaver]

I foresaw your wit and beat you to the punch

[pwhodges]

I mean, he probably wouldn't need to call it off anyway, he could just call the EMTs, let them take Faye and then proceed to watch a movie at Claire's. Won't take more than 15 minutes.

Oh come on!  Marten is going to stay with Faye, even if she goes to hospital, and even if the hospital relegates him to a waiting room.  There's absolutely no way he can or will just go out to enjoy himself.

I'm not yet sure Jeph will take it the hospital route, though.

[Zalder]

I mean, he probably wouldn't need to call it off anyway, he could just call the EMTs, let them take Faye and then proceed to watch a movie at Claire's. Won't take more than 15 minutes.

Oh come on!  Marten is going to stay with Faye, even if she goes to hospital, and even if the hospital relegates him to a waiting room.  There's absolutely no way he can or will just go out to enjoy himself.

I'm not yet sure Jeph will take it the hospital route, though.

Yeah I can't fathom a scenario in which Marten doesn't stay by Faye's side through the night in this situation, be it in the hospital or there in the livingroom.   The guy has the curse of caring.

[Reaver]

Yeahhh the last thing I can see Marten doing is "WELP That problem is solved"-sprays mouth spray in mouth- "Time to get my cuddles on, see ya later Faye-gator"

[GarandMarine]

Damn you Faye, interrupting my Claireten feelgoodtimes with your issues.

Also a fifth of whiskey really isn't that much, considering how much and how often Faye drinks, her tolerance is likely quite high.

[Lubricus]

I foresaw your wit and beat you to the punch

You cheater! 

Damn it, if all this drama causes trouble for Marten and Claire somehow, I'll be pissed!

[ReindeerFlotilla]

The word I used was /dislike/ I do not HATE her, I reserve hate for REAL people, and me DISLIKING  a character due to how they act isn't a discredit to the author, the fact I can feel ANYTHING for any of the characters period is a testimony to the authors  writing, and besides me disliking Faye does not discredit my opinion in the slightest, last I checked one of the rules of the site wasn't "You must like ALL OF THE CHARACTERS to discuss them"

*edited b/c Doe snot is irrelevant to mah post

Reaver, there's been a surprising amount of vitriol and ill will directed at Faye and Dora this week. Your post inspired my question but it wasn't directed at you in particular. It was general to all those expressing that emotion--which is why I didn't name one of the two, but left a blank.

I find this more difficult to understand than the Claire haters. Almost certainly some percentage hate Claire because she's trans, but most are probably just not a fan. Claire is to them what Yelling Bird is to me--a distraction from what drew them to the comic. (I don't hate YB, btw. It's just disappointing to see him.) But the idea of Clair as a distraction makes sense from the POV that there's a vast wealth of QC in which Claire doesn't exist.

Dora and Faye are core cast members. They've technically been in the strip from the start (When you realize that Sara IS Dora, it becomes clear--works at a coffee shop, carries secret torch for Marten, friend of Faye's--Sara was redundant. Dora had all of her qualities and more. Everyone knows that being redundant summons allosaurus, or gets you put on a bus to LA).

Hating on one of them but still reading seems to me like religiously following Star Trek even though you hate Spock. When a character turns me off, I lose interest. That's made it difficult for me to frame the question--it's been on my mind for a few days. I have no frame of reference. The closest I've come is TNG's Reginald Barclay, and the fact is he's the center of some bloody fine episodes.

So, like I said, I'm not saying there's something wrong. I just don't understand, and I'd like to.

[Zalder]

Damn you Faye, interrupting my Claireten feelgoodtimes with your issues.

Also a fifth of whiskey really isn't that much, considering how much and how often Faye drinks, her tolerance is likely quite high.

It wasn't a fifth of whiskey though, all added up she's consumed a lot more than that.

[GarandMarine]

Sure, and what's your point? My personal record is some where around 5-6 fifths (I don't remember, and 5 bottles is the average of what everyone else told me after the fact.) and that was in a much shorter period of time. We know Faye woke up buzzed, and she's made it through half a bottle of booze by the time Dora busts her, while not good for you, that is not a high/fast level of consumption. If that new bottle on the couch is indeed a new bottle... that's a problem. Otherwise I think you people have wimpy livers.

[Reaver]

I can understand that Reindeer, but your post came right after mine, when I had mentioned no such thing of hating any of them, and I suppose some people continue to read even though they HATE certain characters, is because while they may HATE them, they can't help but want to see what happens next?

Also yeah she's drank more than a fifth of Whiskey, she never sobered up from the first time she started drinking after the break up =/

[Zalder]

Let's not go down the "dude, I can so drink way more than that!" road.

[ReindeerFlotilla]

Agreed with Zalder. If we assume the pint on the couch is the same she had at COD, then she's either had a fifth and two pints, two fifths and pint, or one pint plus maybe a fifth and maybe another pint pluse however much of the fifth she found in her bed. The unkowns are whether the large bottle in today's is a fifth or a pint and how much is left in the the bottle from the morning, if anything.

That's a lot of booze in a part of a day.

Also, five or six fifths in a short period is probably in the LD₇₅ range. It would kill most people. So, um cool that you aren't dead, but that's not really a standard people should aspire to. I can't think of any practical day-to-day need for that level of alcohol tolerance. Those little numbers are the population of animals exposed who died. LD₅₀ means Lethal Dose to 50%. so 50% exposed, die. LD₇₅ is obviously 75%. They test this by repeatedly exposing animals to those level and count how many are dead, after.

Unless you weigh about 1000 pounds, you've pushed the LD₇₅ and lived. You played Russian roulette with 4 chambers loaded and lived. That's as much luck as it is tolerance.

[Shjade]

I'm not sure what Marten thinks he'll spend time doing at this point - if Faye's injured or dead, he'll have to leave her to the EMTs, and if she's not, he'll probably not be able to wake her up. And maybe he shouldn't, anyway.

Given the state of both Faye and Pintsize, and his couch, I'm guessing Marten's thinking she shouldn't be left unsupervised, which indicates to me he isn't planning on a hospital trip, at least not yet.

Or he plans to go with her for support.

Either way.

[dielicious]

Okay, when i saw the comic the last thing that came to my mind was an hospital.
I'm seeing thinks like Marty taking care of Faye, when she woke up and do a move on him.
But you guys are probably right.

[xaszatm]

Agreed with Zalder. If we assume the pint on the couch is the same she had at COD, then she's either had a fifth and two pints, two fifths and pint, or one pint plus maybe a fifth and maybe another pint pluse however much of the fifth she found in her bed. The unkowns are whether the large bottle in today's is a fifth or a pint and how much is left in the the bottle from the morning, if anything.

That's a lot of booze in a part of a day.

Alirght, I'm a teetotaler so...what's a fifth in measurement terms? A fifth of the bottle?